Manny/Patrick Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28530361/nfl-experiment-alternative-onside-kick-pro-bowl love it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 A 4th and 15 situation from the 25...essentially having a 35 yard field to gain 15 yards. That's intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: A 4th and 15 situation from the 25...essentially having a 35 yard field to gain 15 yards. That's intriguing. It's going to be hilarious when a team tries this, the play goes nowhere, but a defensive holding way away from the play results in a first down. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Aaron Rodgers would take a sack. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Sounds dumb. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: It's going to be hilarious when a team tries this, the play goes nowhere, but a defensive holding way away from the play results in a first down. I'm seriously interested in so many dynamics here: *What do you do on penalties that result in automatic first downs? How will officials officiate/be instructed to officiate this. The offense will take over at the dead ball spot! So, serious question: What team will finally go ALL IN on analytics and completely take over and do the risk/weight analysis on giving Patrick Mahomes/insert dominant QB here the football anywhere, let alone with an "extra 10 yard head start"? To me, and analytics I'd almost guarantee will back me (unless you're playing against a "meh" offense with a great defense like the Bills, this year's Patriots, etc.), NO ONE SHOULD EVER DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS AGAIN. *Them choosing the 25 and not the 15 is NOT arbitrary. They want the defense to have to cover an extra 10 yards of space. They want more teams to do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanrick Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, MWil23 said: A 4th and 15 situation from the 25...essentially having a 35 yard field to gain 15 yards. That's intriguing. They get the ball on their own 25, not the other teams. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: The offense will take over at the dead ball spot! So, serious question: What team will finally go ALL IN on analytics and completely take over and do the risk/weight analysis on giving Patrick Mahomes/insert dominant QB here the football anywhere, let alone with an "extra 10 yard head start"? To me, and analytics I'd almost guarantee will back me (unless you're playing against a "meh" offense with a great defense like the Bills, this year's Patriots, etc.), NO ONE SHOULD EVER DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS AGAIN. 1 minute ago, titanrick said: They get the ball on their own 25, not the other teams. Scratch my above statement from the record. That makes a whole lot more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveTheVikings Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Xavier Rhodes just got added to the pro bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I don't care about this in the pro bowl. For regular season, I wish they'd just go back to allowing the kicking team to have a running start. Onside kicks are an exciting play on those big hops. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 59 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Aaron Rodgers would take a sack. Mitch Trubisky would scramble out of bounds for 1.5 yards 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tyty said: Mitch Trubisky would scramble out of bounds for 1.5 yards So would Chad Brinkowitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: So would Chad Brinkowitz. You have to score points to kick an onside so I don’t think he’ll ever be faced with this predicament 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozizaki Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Genius idea very similar to the Schiano plan, which should've been implemented back when he original proposed it. I hope it makes it into the NFL next season and then we can tweak location and distance after we have a strong sample size of data. Jon Bois broke it down in 2017 and I was immediately convinced that it's a better alternative than the traditional kickoff and preserves the ability of a team to retain possession, as an onside kick does. Edited January 21, 2020 by Nozizaki 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 This is a terrible idea if it extends beyond the Pro Bowl. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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