Hukos Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 If you think people are complaining about refs now, just wait until a 50/50 call involving DPI or Illegal Contact comes up on not-onside kick play (what's the official name for this play?). People are going to go nuclear on the refs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packer_ESP Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Aaron Rodgers would take a sack. Mike McCarthy would punt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) My ONLY major tweak - can't gain more than 15 yards if you convert the play. There's no onside kick where you can actually get past the other team's 40-45 yard line, that should be the same here - no bombs, no DPI, no iffy penalty creating a huge gain for the O. Otherwise, if the odds of a 4th and 15 are about the same as the odds of the old onside kick, I'm all for it. Edited January 21, 2020 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hukos said: If you think people are complaining about refs now, just wait until a 50/50 call involving DPI or Illegal Contact comes up on not-onside kick play (what's the official name for this play?). People are going to go nuclear on the refs. That's also why you can't let the O get more than 15 yards. On an onside kick, no way you get more than regaining possession on the 40 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Outpost31 said: Aaron Rodgers would take a sack. 2 hours ago, Tyty said: Mitch Trubisky would scramble out of bounds for 1.5 yards Derek Carr would throw it away.....twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, titanrick said: They get the ball on their own 25, not the other teams. yeah otherwise....just keep kicking field goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Broncofan said: - no bombs, no DPI, no iffy penalty creating a huge gain for the O so, the defenders are free to commit any penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 lets make it mandatory to have to attempt it. only make it 4th and 20 and "pass as good as a punt" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Malfatron said: so, the defenders are free to commit any penalties? Well, it gives the O the ball at their 40. It's a huge penalty either way. There's not a single defender who wouldn't get skewered for giving up a penalty that allowed the trailing team to get possession. The reward for converting should match the intended goal - to give trailing teams a chance that was similar to before the player safety rules changed the odds of an onsides kick and the impact it had on win probability. It should not swing the odds so far the other way. Here's the thing though - the best result the O could get from the old onsides was getting the ball back at their own 40 (give or take a few yards). If the goal is to give teams that chance - it shouldn't swing too far the other way. The old onsides kick never had a chance to get a chunk play, let alone score. Getting the ball back at your own 40 is a major swing regardless, no need to go the other way and let the trailing team get a free chunk play attempt where they had no such hope with the old onsides. Edited January 21, 2020 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Another rule: You can’t do back to back onside kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflbillsfan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 This is dumb to many factors involved to lose a game when a head. This benefits the team that is losing more so then the team that is winning. its a 50 50 shot when an onside kick is being done. With a 4th and 15 even though it is 15 yards it still has better odds for the losing teams as penalties can be in play, one holding, PI, roughing passer, face mask, etc. can give them the opportunity to get back in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I...I just don't like this idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Cant wait for them to line up like they are gonna go for it, try to draw the defense offsides for a free play, take the delay of game, and then decide not to go for it after all and let their oppoents have it Edited January 21, 2020 by Malfatron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renndawg37 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, ET80 said: I...I just don't like this idea. It's a horrible idea in my opinion. Leave it as it is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensfanRD Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Sounds dumb. Just can't emphasize this enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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