Kiltman Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 10:24 PM, wackywabbit said: Marshal Yanda is a HOFer now right? Now that he's been a part of historically excellent statistical offense and the ring he already had. Is that enough buzziness? At this point no, because he plays Oline and wasn’t notable enough to the overall public to move the needle. In a vacuum, there is an argument there, but he won’t get voted in over non-oline guys. There are so many “future Hall of famer” olinemen that people just wipe from their memories as soon as they leave. His best chance is to get into TV, become a personality, or go work for the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Titans_Matt said: In this post I was specifically referring to the centennial HOF class here. Harold Carmichael, Jim Covert, Winston Hill, Alex Karras are not and have never been Hall of Famers. James and Atwater aren't either though. Carmichael was dominant in his era though and was near the top in most categories when he retired. He played in an era when QB play sucked for the most part, and DBs could do whatever they wanted. If you plucked him from the 70s and brought him forward he would’ve just done better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 evil stat compilers had planned to wait it out until the current HOFers(Ben,Brady,Brees) retired to have a chance to get in for 'being the best while they were active.' unfortunately for them, Wilson and Mahomes won't be going home anytime soon; and their brilliance will cleanse the unworthy from our memories in a fashion much like staring at the Ark of the Covenant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrnastiesNO Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 9:50 AM, Ryan_W said: evil stat compilers had planned to wait it out until the current HOFers(Ben,Brady,Brees) retired to have a chance to get in for 'being the best while they were active.' unfortunately for them, Wilson and Mahomes won't be going home anytime soon; and their brilliance will cleanse the unworthy from our memories in a fashion much like staring at the Ark of the Covenant They might be able to sneak in between that gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 9:34 PM, Malik said: Fundamentally, I'd prefer the Hall of Fame make more space for the Kurt Warner type players than an Eli or Rivers. Someone with high peaks for a handful of years over guys who were decent to pretty good for a really long time. Why not take it a step further and remove names like Aikman, Fouts, etc As for Kurt Warner did you see his play in NY? He shouldn't be in either if were being really harsh on the entry conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows34 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) On 01/02/2020 at 10:25 PM, wwhickok said: If Faneca cant get in, no. Faneca is getting in soon enough, it’s only a matter of time. In 10 years people won’t remember how long it took for Faneca to get elected, just as they don’t for McDaniel, Shields and Dawson. They probably won’t remember Steve Hutchinson went in before him either. Faneca was first team 2000s All Decade and that carries a lot of weight. Of the ten OL on that team, eight are in the HOF and Faneca is currently the only 1st team OL not to be elected. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_2000s_All-Decade_Team Of those who are currently eligible for the HOF, the only 1st team selections (offense and defense) from that All Decade team not in Canton are Faneca, Richard Seymour and fullback Lorenzo Neal. Faneca and Seymour are both knocking on the door having reached the Top 10. Edited February 6, 2020 by Boknows34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows34 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) The 2010s All Decade team will be announced soon and that should give a big boost to anyone’s HOF candidacy. Looking back at previous teams there are very few 1st team All Decade players who don’t have a gold jacket. Drew Pearson is the only one left on the 1970s team. LeRoy Butler the same for the 1990s All Decade. Edited February 6, 2020 by Boknows34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otg Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Seventeen dollars and a nice watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 9:20 PM, Classic said: Why not take it a step further and remove names like Aikman, Fouts, etc As for Kurt Warner did you see his play in NY? He shouldn't be in either if were being really harsh on the entry conditions. Dan Fouts had a great peak. He head the league in yards, TDs, yards per completion, yards per attempt, touchdown percentage, and was voted to multiple first team All-Pros. Dan Fouts was an elite passer for his era. He definitely belongs in the hall. I saw Kurt in NY and he was terrible. His highs with the Rams and Cardinals were still some of the best seasons by a QB ever as well as him being a fantastic post season QB when he got there. Despite playing in half as many games as Eli he still has more playoff appearances and victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Slim Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 i think there’s two routes you can go, one being the elite route and the other being the eli elite route, you have a lot of accolades, both statistical and tangible, and you’re an objectively elite and top tier player. if you don’t have any rings this is the route you go in on, but many many players with rings will go this route too bc rings go to, shock horror, the players who play well in the super bowl - and many of them are elite players! now eli, as in of course eli manning, is when you’re a part of history defining nfl stuff. stuff that you tell your kids about, really playing on the “fame” aspect of the hall of fame. this is all about narrative, the narrative and the stories that a career generates. and ofc, a combination of the two works as well. jerome bettis a prime example of someone who’s not in the super upper echelon in terms of elite playerness, also doesn’t have a story equivalent to eli slaying the dragon twice, but when you combine both of the two you can make an argument he deserves to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrnastiesNO Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 8:20 PM, Classic said: Why not take it a step further and remove names like Aikman, Fouts, etc As for Kurt Warner did you see his play in NY? He shouldn't be in either if were being really harsh on the entry conditions. Aikman shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame he just happened to be the QB on a Hall of Fame team. Warner was one of the best to every through a football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrnastiesNO Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 9:50 AM, Ryan_W said: evil stat compilers had planned to wait it out until the current HOFers(Ben,Brady,Brees) retired to have a chance to get in for 'being the best while they were active.' unfortunately for them, Wilson and Mahomes won't be going home anytime soon; and their brilliance will cleanse the unworthy from our memories in a fashion much like staring at the Ark of the Covenant I don't know if big Ben is a Hofer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, MrnastiesNO said: I don't know if big Ben is a Hofer. hes a heffer though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherm Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 We all know what a HOF player looks like. Only prob is we can't take our emotions out of it when it comes to our fav team. When it's a player we hate or don't think is worthy we move the line further away. When it's our player that's close but prob shouldn't be in we move that line closer to say he's a no brainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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