ninjapirate Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 They probably shouldnt play any games over there now let alone have a team there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 hours ago, .Buzz said: This, but also it already puts teams at disadvantages because of travel. I'd imagine they'd try to group home games together, but in that case it's just put the road team at a disadvantage. On top of that, I really don't know that the Jaguars are even THAT popular there. They obviously have a decent following but I get the feeling most are just a big mixing pot of a ton of teams. People will probably go to the games, but will they even create a home field advantage? Idk...I just don't know. Go a step further. Soccer (i.e. their football) has the popularity in England that football does here. Barring Wembley, there aren't really stadiums that isn't owned by a club (who likely won't be all that keen on scheduling around NFL games since their seasons overlap), and venues like the O2 and Manchester Arenas only hold in the neighborhood of 20,000. Tax stuffs would be something the Players Union sure isn't going to want to hash out, but they'd have to. Travel (not just costs, but logistics in general) has already been mentioned,, but it would be a nightmare - teams traveling from the Pacific and Mountain time zones would literally be losing a day. London is, for all intents and purposes, the "new LA" - in that it's the place you threaten to move to in order to get bend your current city to your will, except unlike LA it's plainly not realistic to relocate there (the fortunate bit for the league and teams is that it took so long - the better part of a quarter-century - to get a team back in LA). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 25, 2020 Author Share Posted January 25, 2020 1 hour ago, The LBC said: Go a step further. Soccer (i.e. their football) has the popularity in England that football does here. Barring Wembley, there aren't really stadiums that isn't owned by a club (who likely won't be all that keen on scheduling around NFL games since their seasons overlap), and venues like the O2 and Manchester Arenas only hold in the neighborhood of 20,000. Tax stuffs would be something the Players Union sure isn't going to want to hash out, but they'd have to. Travel (not just costs, but logistics in general) has already been mentioned,, but it would be a nightmare - teams traveling from the Pacific and Mountain time zones would literally be losing a day. London is, for all intents and purposes, the "new LA" - in that it's the place you threaten to move to in order to get bend your current city to your will, except unlike LA it's plainly not realistic to relocate there (the fortunate bit for the league and teams is that it took so long - the better part of a quarter-century - to get a team back in LA). Great points all around. That's why I think London is more of a random game here and there for home teams/if they get a neutral site game in the future. For how JAX is using them as a way to increase revenue 1-2 times a year sure. To move there full time I just don't see. So if relocation for JAX is a thing I think it'll be here or Canada. Not just a full time move to London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hukos said: Travel costs to London from road teams, especially on the west coast, are going to be nuts. NFL would likely put something in place to offset this if they really want the expansion to go ahead. (Example: Travel Allowance) Edited January 25, 2020 by Small Town Values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 9 hours ago, DigInBoys said: It's not about politics, it's about culture. Canada is very similar to the US culturally, much closer than the UK. I don't really see whats debatable about that. I can't imagine the CFL would be very happy if the NFL tries to horn in on their turf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 It will never be viable. There will be a Team in Canada or Mexico before London and that too is unlikely. It's a logistical nightmare and completely unrealistic for an entire 16 GM season! Not happening! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drained Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Great points in this thread I think the main question the NFL should be asking about this, and a Mexico City team, and a Toronto team is, very important, this: What will make a person from the UK, who has been a fan of a team for so long, dedicated so many hours into shouting at the TV, staying up all night, paying exuberant prices to go and see them at Wembley, suddenly go and say "Yeah okay, I'll support the London team instead." I'm sure they'll be a lot of people who do that but the thing is, why would someone from Edinburgh or Manchester or Newcastle support a London team instead of sticking with their trusty Bears or trusty Raiders? There's no homegrown players on the London team to cheer for, they won't come and play at a local stadium near you they're gonna play in London and you have no ties to the city they're repping! It's like saying I'm from Austin, a team just started in San Antonio so F the Cowboys, I'm supporting them now. It just makes no sense to me, that with the logistics just makes me think its near impossible. Edited January 26, 2020 by Drained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehops Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 for a lot of the reasons mentioned, having a team relocate to london is probably closer to a pipe dream than a reality at this point. but i also think an expansion to toronto is unlikely (or would be a huge mistake). there is a very small NFL fan base compared to the NHL or NBA, we don't have a facility, there is no tailgate culture or whatever to help build a fan base, players don't want to play there (the raptors have a big problem attracting free agents), etc. it's kind of a shame really because toronto would be a perfect fit in the AFC East with buffalo, NYJ and the patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 No, it's fine to go there for a couple games a year but the thought of a franchise over there and the rest in the United States is unthinkable. Not viable at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Bring back the Concorde, and a lot of problems are solved probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landon Lads Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Does anyone really want the Jags tho?!? Edited January 28, 2020 by Landon Lads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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