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Like who?  I do not think I am missing anyone.  

I think Journey Brown and Wade have the potential to be where you have them, but I need to see them continue to have the success that they had later in the season last year before I put them as high as you do. Also a tad lower on Parsons and Freiermuth. probably 5-10 spots lower each.

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8 minutes ago, Danger said:

I think Journey Brown and Wade have the potential to be where you have them, but I need to see them continue to have the success that they had later in the season last year before I put them as high as you do. Also a tad lower on Parsons and Freiermuth. probably 5-10 spots lower each.

How Brown finished the year was crazy impressive and there is no reason to believe he will not continue to improve and impress out there.  The more carries he got the better he was and next year I do not see him getting less carries because of Cain, Slade or Ford.  Brown is the best out of them all and to me it is not even that close.  

Wade I might have a little high but if he plays like he did against Ohio State consistently he will be higher than where I have him potentially.

Parsons is a freak show and since linebackers are getting harder and harder to find he should easily be that high of a pick unless he is a dirty bag person like that accusation makes him out to be.  If that is not the case, there is very little to dislike about him and he should easily have potential to be a top 5 guy.  If Devin White can be a top 5 guy Parsons should be no question because he is a better athlete.  Freiermuth  I think will work on his conditioning more and have a much better season next year, and he should clearly be the #1 TE by far.  But sure the level they play at could decrease their stock next year, but I would assume they should be better not worse but will see.  

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1 hour ago, Ozzy said:

How Brown finished the year was crazy impressive and there is no reason to believe he will not continue to improve and impress out there.  The more carries he got the better he was and next year I do not see him getting less carries because of Cain, Slade or Ford.  Brown is the best out of them all and to me it is not even that close.  

Wade I might have a little high but if he plays like he did against Ohio State consistently he will be higher than where I have him potentially.

Parsons is a freak show and since linebackers are getting harder and harder to find he should easily be that high of a pick unless he is a dirty bag person like that accusation makes him out to be.  If that is not the case, there is very little to dislike about him and he should easily have potential to be a top 5 guy.  If Devin White can be a top 5 guy Parsons should be no question because he is a better athlete.  Freiermuth  I think will work on his conditioning more and have a much better season next year, and he should clearly be the #1 TE by far.  But sure the level they play at could decrease their stock next year, but I would assume they should be better not worse but will see.  

FWIW. I do think Noah Cain is much closer to Journey Brown in overall value than the other two guys. He reminds me a lot of Zeke Elliot in terms of running style.

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7 hours ago, Ozzy said:

I left out over 100 soon to be JR players for next year, I just include the ones I think will declare or should declare of the list of top upcoming juniors I have and a few RS SOPH players.

Makes sense, thanks. 

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Trey Lance is an awesome player who had a great season last year and maybe since next year is such a some what down season for QBs he could come out.  But honestly the NFL QB room is absolutely packed on almost every roster, and just look at what Winston had to do and he lead the league in passing yards last year.  I think it would be foolish for Lance to come out as a RS SOPH, maybe he plays lights out like he did last year and he probably will if there is a season.  Still not sold on him being this super high 1st round pick in 2021.  Top 5?  Not so sure about that one.  Would be great for him sure but could be a little early.  

 

 

Maybe I missed some guys, but I believe these are most of the RS SOPH quarterbacks who came out early for the draft.  Not a great list but also no one from a FCS school either, all had awesome seasons outside of Kizer but all were on a much more national stage.  Even though I must say the FCS playoffs are tough no doubt about it so what Lance did last year was impressive but not like no other QB has done the same at NDSU.

Mike Vick
Sam Darnold
Johnny Manziel
Dwayne Haskins
DeShone Kizer
Jameis Winston

 

 

 

Outside of a few hundred more yards rushing and less INTs, Easton Stick had similar numbers his last year at North Dakota State.  Heck had arguably close passing stats again minus the interceptions over three seasons really.  Carson Wentz had a great JR season and still came back for his SR season where he did get injured though, still was a top pick in the draft after leading the team to the title.  

Maybe if 2-4 QBs retire next year but with how most are talking that is not going to happen.  

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You seem to be really high on some of the Oregon guys, namely Graham and Scott. Having watched both extensively they seem to me to be more of the "very good college player, mediocre prospect" types. Graham I see more as a mid-late round guy and strictly as a slot, and Scott is just so limited athletically that I have a hard time seeing him drafted before day 3. He will likely be a guy that sticks around for 10+ years because he's phenomenal in the role he plays (pure run stuffer, take on doubles kind of guy) but offers very little beyond that. He has some decent quickness, especially for his size, but very rarely gets significant pressure in the pass game and more holds ground for the others around him to take advantage of. Might be one of my favorite ducks but I'm curious as to why you have him (and Graham) rated so highly

On the flip side, I think Lenoir is actually a better prospect than Graham so would love to hear why you're so down on him. He was sticky last year outside of the ASU game when the whole team was asleep

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34 minutes ago, ScoDucks823 said:

You seem to be really high on some of the Oregon guys, namely Graham and Scott. Having watched both extensively they seem to me to be more of the "very good college player, mediocre prospect" types. Graham I see more as a mid-late round guy and strictly as a slot, and Scott is just so limited athletically that I have a hard time seeing him drafted before day 3. He will likely be a guy that sticks around for 10+ years because he's phenomenal in the role he plays (pure run stuffer, take on doubles kind of guy) but offers very little beyond that. He has some decent quickness, especially for his size, but very rarely gets significant pressure in the pass game and more holds ground for the others around him to take advantage of. Might be one of my favorite ducks but I'm curious as to why you have him (and Graham) rated so highly

On the flip side, I think Lenoir is actually a better prospect than Graham so would love to hear why you're so down on him. He was sticky last year outside of the ASU game when the whole team was asleep

Thomas Graham Jr is way better than you say he is, 28 passes deflected in two years is damn good.  No way Lenoir is better than Graham.  Graham is more competitive, has better ball skills, is a better fighter and makes more plays on the football and more of an impact overall.  Both are good but Graham to me has more upside and yes his ability to play in the slot makes him valuable.  Maybe I am overrating Graham but honestly based on how he finished the season he is right up there with any other corner.  He is better than Kendrick right now, Surtain I thought had kind of a down year last season for Bama.  Samuel Jr could be up there but is still kind of raw, Adebo had a flat out bad season last year for Stanford and Keith Taylor is still raw, Bynum could be up there but last year Graham played better than him arguably.   Sure Graham could fall to the 2nd round but unless some other corners really break out he will be in the mix for the top 5 corners easily.  

Jordon Scott, well I love run stuffing DTs, sure they are not valuable but I like them and think they are important.  Especially if a 3/4 team needs a new NT, he is the guy.  He has explosive ability to move dudes and really can handle himself in the middle.  Sure does not put up huge stats but most don't at his position.  I expect a big year out of him and his play to be improved off the past few seasons.  It is not a very deep DT class either potentially so that also helps him.  But sure he could maybe drop a little more because lack of value, I like him as a player so I have him higher than some maybe.  He has been good for awhile but yes hopefully he can take his play to another level this season.  

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19 hours ago, Ozzy said:

Thomas Graham Jr is way better than you say he is, 28 passes deflected in two years is damn good.  No way Lenoir is better than Graham.  Graham is more competitive, has better ball skills, is a better fighter and makes more plays on the football and more of an impact overall.  Both are good but Graham to me has more upside and yes his ability to play in the slot makes him valuable.  Maybe I am overrating Graham but honestly based on how he finished the season he is right up there with any other corner.  He is better than Kendrick right now, Surtain I thought had kind of a down year last season for Bama.  Samuel Jr could be up there but is still kind of raw, Adebo had a flat out bad season last year for Stanford and Keith Taylor is still raw, Bynum could be up there but last year Graham played better than him arguably.   Sure Graham could fall to the 2nd round but unless some other corners really break out he will be in the mix for the top 5 corners easily.  

Jordon Scott, well I love run stuffing DTs, sure they are not valuable but I like them and think they are important.  Especially if a 3/4 team needs a new NT, he is the guy.  He has explosive ability to move dudes and really can handle himself in the middle.  Sure does not put up huge stats but most don't at his position.  I expect a big year out of him and his play to be improved off the past few seasons.  It is not a very deep DT class either potentially so that also helps him.  But sure he could maybe drop a little more because lack of value, I like him as a player so I have him higher than some maybe.  He has been good for awhile but yes hopefully he can take his play to another level this season.  

Totally agree on most of what you're saying on Scott. He's awesome at what he does, and probably the best pure nose in college football right now, I just don't see him being valued that high. Graham, while he definitely gets deflections, I kind of doubt his athleticism in comparison to Lenoir who was better in coverage last year and is a better athlete. I think Graham may be better in his future role as a slot than Lenoir will ever be on the outside but I think Lenoir's athletic upside makes him a better prospect. We'll see what happens this year though. Gonna be a great defense to watch, that's for damn sure

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4 hours ago, ScoDucks823 said:

Totally agree on most of what you're saying on Scott. He's awesome at what he does, and probably the best pure nose in college football right now, I just don't see him being valued that high. Graham, while he definitely gets deflections, I kind of doubt his athleticism in comparison to Lenoir who was better in coverage last year and is a better athlete. I think Graham may be better in his future role as a slot than Lenoir will ever be on the outside but I think Lenoir's athletic upside makes him a better prospect. We'll see what happens this year though. Gonna be a great defense to watch, that's for damn sure

Yeah that defense should be good especially the secondary.  Probably have the best one in the country and Holland is a stud and Breeze came on super strong last season, if Breeze can keep up the play he had the last few games he could easily be a 2nd round pick potentially, he looked awesome out there but clearly has to be consistent.  Kayvon should be even better on the DL and stronger I think, and Isaac Slade-Matautia should be a breakout player at LB.  

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On 1/25/2020 at 9:09 AM, Ozzy said:

Gregory Rousseau Miami FL RS SOPH DE

 

On 1/25/2020 at 9:09 AM, Ozzy said:

Quincy Roche Miami FL SR DE

Going to be so fun watching these two together....,if we get a 2020/21 CFB season.

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3 hours ago, DreamKid said:

 

Going to be so fun watching these two together....,if we get a 2020/21 CFB season.

Roche's tape at Temple is very impressive, 26 sacks and 39.5 TFLs, 6 FFs and 6 PDs in three seasons is really great.  He is a awesome athlete with a good motor.  Then again they will need a secondary to do something as a team and that is a massive question mark.  

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On 5/1/2020 at 2:01 PM, Ozzy said:

Yeah that defense should be good especially the secondary.  Probably have the best one in the country and Holland is a stud and Breeze came on super strong last season, if Breeze can keep up the play he had the last few games he could easily be a 2nd round pick potentially, he looked awesome out there but clearly has to be consistent.  Kayvon should be even better on the DL and stronger I think, and Isaac Slade-Matautia should be a breakout player at LB.  

Breeze quickly became the darling of every Duck fan with how he played at the end of last year. With ISM, it's gonna be about the mental side I think. Can he hold off Flowe and Sewell who are both superior athletically? If his instincts continue to improve he can easily hold down that spot with how he played last year

I for one think Sewell should add some weight and play on the line where his athleticism will really be a mismatch. He's already so big for the ILB position, and while he's really explosive for his size, it seems unlikely that he can stay at that weight (or even lose a few pounds) as he matures. Could take on a Donte Hightower at Bama type role where he shifts down to rush the passer on passing downs or even really commit to bulking up and be a penetrating DT. Super interesting guy to watch going forward. 

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