WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 We know that Pace likes to go into the draft without glaring holes on the roster, which means he has a lot of work to do on a tight budget. This is assuming that ILB is addressed in house.QB2RGOT3TEOLB3SSCB3-4To go into the draft without a glaring hole this is the list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Now you have to split 20-25 million between theses spots and you are not left with a lot per player. It may be a multiple tier 2-3 player offseason to fill the obvious needs.QB2RGOT3TEOLB3SSCB3-4Assuming you have 25 million for Free Agency that do you budget per spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, WindyCity said: QB2 - 2 million or less, AJ McCarron/Trevor Siemian level guy.RG - 6-7 million, Austin Blythe levelOT3 - 1 million, retain LucasTE - 10 million, Hunter HenryOLB3 - 1 million, Cassius Marsh, Sam Acho levelSS - 2 million, Retain Deon BushCB3-4 - Vet min, I think we have our top 4 on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 QB2: 7 million RG: 3-4 million OT3: 2 million TE: 4 million OLB3: 3 million SS: 3 million CB3-4: 3 million I think you would have to budget it somewhere like this. This should get you players that do not force your hand in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 I think the Bears can get to 50 million in a total budget for the offseason. That is with extending Robinson, Floyd and Patterson and making the obvious cuts we have discussed.50 million-5 draft-2-3 emergency fund-17-20 re-signings, which does not go far-22-25 free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Kevin Pierre-Louis: 3Deon Bush: 3RRH: 3.51 year deals at roughly 1 millionBrent UrbanDHCScalesCowardLucasIrvingHoltz [610k]You can spend 16 million pretty quick on depth guys and just keeping a couple of your own free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I think we need a new OT1 or 2. Not OT3. Our 2019 OT play was not conducive to winning football games. They were adequate in 2018. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, dll2000 said: I think we need a new OT1 or 2. Not OT3. Our 2019 OT play was not conducive to winning football games. They were adequate in 2018. They simply cannot afford to sign a starting OT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, WindyCity said: They simply cannot afford to sign a starting OT. IMO they can’t afford not to. They should make room. Floyd, Prince have to go. Bears simply can’t go deep in playoffs with Leno and Massie as starting OTs. What will be will be though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I think it's more realistic to sign a starting guard, swing tackle, and then hopefully land a good OT in rd 2 along with a TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: Kevin Pierre-Louis: 3Deon Bush: 3RRH: 3.51 year deals at roughly 1 millionBrent UrbanDHCScalesCowardLucasIrvingHoltz [610k]You can spend 16 million pretty quick on depth guys and just keeping a couple of your own free agents. Outside of Scales and maybe DHC you’re only bringing most of those $1M guys to the 53-man roster though if you don’t address the needs in the draft. Lucas, Holtz, Irving and Urban aren’t likely here in September if we’re drafting their positions in April. Also, $3M for Bush? HHCD got 1/$3M last year and has an actual resume. Bush should get less. That’s nitpicking though to your larger point with which I agree. The true art of FA after days 1 and 2 isn’t in who you sign but rather when you sign them. Deon Bush might get $3.5M if you sign him day 1 or 2 but if you’re signing him the 2nd week of April it’s probably at half that rate. I’m sure everyone remembers all of the projection in here last offseason for keeping Aaron Lynch for like 3/12 with half or more guaranteed and he ended up signing for 1/1.5. I think a 2020-specific circumstance is noteworthy too especially as it pertains to less established guys in that without a CBA beyond 2020 and at least the potential for a lockout/strike in 2021 some of these guys who haven’t “made it” may opt for a lesser AAV in exchange for some kind of guarantee to insulate them financially against a work stoppage. Top FA are getting life changing money now if they haven’t had it already but for a fringe starter and even more so a fringe roster guy every dollar matters that much more. The longer the CBA is a question mark the more likely we are I think to see team-friendly deals that give some of the guys on the periphery a guaranteed check in 2020 even if a little less than desired ahead of a potential 2021 without one. Edited January 27, 2020 by AZBearsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, AZBearsFan said: Outside of Scales and maybe DHC you’re only bringing most of those $1M guys to the 53-man roster though if you don’t address the needs in the draft. Lucas, Holtz, Irving and Urban aren’t likely here in September if we’re drafting their positions in April. Also, $3M for Bush? HHCD got 1/$3M last year and has an actual resume. Bush should get less. That’s nitpicking though to your larger point with which I agree. The true art of FA after days 1 and 2 isn’t in who you sign but rather when you sign them. Deon Bush might get $3.5M if you sign him day 1 or 2 but if you’re signing him the 2nd week of April it’s probably at half that rate. I’m sure everyone remembers all of the projection in here last offseason for keeping Aaron Lynch for like 3/12 with half or more guaranteed and he ended up signing for 1/1.5. I think a 2020-specific circumstance is noteworthy too especially as it pertains to less established guys in that without a CBA beyond 2020 and at least the potential for a lockout/strike in 2021 some of these guys who haven’t “made it” may opt for a lesser AAV in exchange for some kind of guarantee to insulate them financially against a work stoppage. Top FA are getting life changing money now if they haven’t had it already but for a fringe starter and even more so a fringe roster guy every dollar matters that much more. The longer the CBA is a question mark the more likely we are I think to see team-friendly deals that give some of the guys on the periphery a guaranteed check in 2020 even if a little less than desired ahead of a potential 2021 without one. I do not expect most of those guys to make the team, but they will count against the cap through free agency and the draft. The lack of CBA also screws the Bears as they cannot backload deals nearly as much. I do not think Bush gets the full 3 millions, but HHCD was a unique case who took below market money, Bush my guess signs a 2-4 or 2-5 deal to be the presumptive starter at SS. I estimated a little high for each guy. But if we want to address 6-7 positional needs in free agency we need to chance our per/player expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 56 minutes ago, WindyCity said: I do not expect most of those guys to make the team, but they will count against the cap through free agency and the draft. The lack of CBA also screws the Bears as they cannot backload deals nearly as much. I do not think Bush gets the full 3 millions, but HHCD was a unique case who took below market money, Bush my guess signs a 2-4 or 2-5 deal to be the presumptive starter at SS. I estimated a little high for each guy. But if we want to address 6-7 positional needs in free agency we need to chance our per/player expectation. I don't think Bush gets that much. He has not proven anything in his 4 years in the NFL other than being a depth and special teams piece. There are times where he has looked lost in coverage. I wouldn't feel absolutely confident going into next season with him as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, topwop1 said: I don't think Bush gets that much. He has not proven anything in his 4 years in the NFL other than being a depth and special teams piece. There are times where he has looked lost in coverage. I wouldn't feel absolutely confident going into next season with him as a starter. Okay, pay him 1.5 million and add 1.5 million to the pot. Still leaves you pretty light when you need to re-sign 10 guys and sign 6-7 contributing free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: I think it's more realistic to sign a starting guard, swing tackle, and then hopefully land a good OT in rd 2 along with a TE. They keep bringing in FA guards and they all turn out average at best and many are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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