agarcia34 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 8 hours ago, TheMadStork said: I haven't seen one person mention Nicholas Morrow, I thought he had a very good game. Looked very solid in coverage; I see no reason to start Lee again. i noticed him a lot more in this game. He made a couple of plays last week against the Titans, but got a lot more work this week. I think he replaced Adams in passing situations and seemed to have a lot better success in coverage. I would like to see more of him. Always seems to be around the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakRaiders3828 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So did Marquel Lee look bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 The Great: Osemele-He was driving guys back 4-5 yds on every run play and was a huge part of our explosive plays Crabtree, Carr, Downing, Richard, Patterson, Cook(only including because of his hands, but he goes down so easily) Offensive Line in Pass Pro- Almost no pressure on Carr all day Conleys first game- Looked to be in good position all day and I didnt see him give up any big plays Morrow- He wasnt amazing, but for an UDFA I have been more than impressed with his play We are 2-0 for the first time in 15 years Marshawn Lynch dancing- Kept the crowd in the game until the end(even if the Jets were offended by it) The Meh: Amerson- He was in good position on both those TDs, but wasnt able to make a play on either one. We need him to step up as we will play much better QBs Cooper- He needs to get his confidence back, Onside kick he dropped the ball and that pass on 3rd was perfectly placed. He needs to catch the damn ball Pass Rush- I know its weird to complain when we finished with 4 sacks, but we need to be able to collapse the pocket more consistently Playing on dirt- Its so annoying watching us play on that garbage field. The Refs- Holy hell the refs were bad, I usually try to keep them out of it, but some of those calls were terrible. The division looks just as good as we do. The Chiefs and Broncos arent going to be pushed around and it will take a great season for us to finish in front of both No Uglies as I dont have too much to complain about after winning by 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Cooper's becoming a little frustrating for me. He's failing to take that leap that expected of him. He should be a dominate part of this offense and he's still playing second fiddle to Crabtree. He should be in the talks of the leagues best WRs and right now he's fooling around with being very average most days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, daineraider said: The Refs- Holy hell the refs were bad, I usually try to keep them out of it, but some of those calls were terrible. My favorite was Skrine getting a "hitting a defenseless receiver" call on Wash and he didn't even knock him to the ground! Wash kept going after contract. That's as bad as I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, big_palooka said: My favorite was Skrine getting a "hitting a defenseless receiver" call on Wash and he didn't even knock him to the ground! Wash kept going after contract. That's as bad as I've seen. That was bad, had they called helmet to helmet it would have made more sense, but still a bad call. And Irvin's, I guess he tackled too hard? And then Lee's "taunting" was awful. He just looked at the guy and didn't even say much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightTrainLane Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, daineraider said: Cook(only including because of his hands, but he goes down so easily) Both games I have noticed that guys won' take him on high (mainly because he is so tall), so they dive at his knees. I've seen 4 hits directly at his knees, mostly when he doesn't see it coming or has just turned his head. The last one last game I swear I seen him have a bit of reaction like that hurt. I wouldn't be surprised if he is on the injury list this week as limited with some leg. 3 hours ago, OakRaiders3828 said: So did Marquel Lee look bad? No he looked good in run fits but I think they are using him and the LBs as a whole were they fit the best. They pull Lee when it's an obvious passing sitiuation. Morrow seems to have taken that passing MLB spot. Adams is backup Weakside to James and on special teams now. 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Cooper's becoming a little frustrating for me. He's failing to take that leap that expected of him. He should be a dominate part of this offense and he's still playing second fiddle to Crabtree. He should be in the talks of the leagues best WRs and right now he's fooling around with being very average most days. While we all don't like the drop he had this game added to the one last game, I don't think he is in the realm of frustrating or disappointing. I just think Crab had a great game. Coop will have his good games this year. As far as playing second fiddle, if we are going down the path of who is the #1 WR, it's Crabtree and it shouldn't even be a convo in my mind. And it's not a knock on Coop at all either. He is 3rd yr 23 year old WR. It's ok for him to struggle at times, make errors and learn from Crab and gain the rapport with Carr. They will both be Raiders for atleast 5-6 more years. They have time to get it right. Just my view of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, big_palooka said: Cooper's becoming a little frustrating for me. He's failing to take that leap that expected of him. He should be a dominate part of this offense and he's still playing second fiddle to Crabtree. He should be in the talks of the leagues best WRs and right now he's fooling around with being very average most days. Overreact much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Overreact much? I agree with BP to an extent. Just like last year he is disappearing throughout portions of the game. Carr may not be throwing to him as much because of his drops. Its only two games in so I'm hoping he gets some things figured out, but you have to admit his drops have been disappointing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Coopers drops are frustrating but Crabtree will eat 1 on 1 all day when defenses like the Jets sell out to stop Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, daineraider said: I agree with BP to an extent. Just like last year he is disappearing throughout portions of the game. Carr may not be throwing to him as much because of his drops. Its only two games in so I'm hoping he gets some things figured out, but you have to admit his drops have been disappointing so far. The drops have been ugly, but he just doesn't get big targets and this team refuses to use him vertically. I swear to god, why don't we see one target on a go route or double move? It seems like he's more of a decoy than player at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, raidr4life said: Overreact much? Saying a player is frustrating is an overreaction now? I just expect more from Cooper, because we all know he's capable of it. He should be on an upward trajectory here in year 3 and he's still struggling with consistency in his game. We've seen him take over games before. He can be among the household names in this league, but his consistency isn't there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdigtheRaiders! Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Chali21 said: I agree this bothered me as well. The game was won there's no reason Carr should be in there. Totally, that's why we have Manuel and Cook. Let those guys get reps, it can only help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, daineraider said: I agree with BP to an extent. Just like last year he is disappearing throughout portions of the game. Carr may not be throwing to him as much because of his drops. Its only two games in so I'm hoping he gets some things figured out, but you have to admit his drops have been disappointing so far. I think its far too early to say Coop is disappearing like he did for stretches of his first two years. Its been two games. One was a closely contested game where Coop made a couple big 3rd and long conversions late in the game, and the other was a blowout. We have arguably the most balanced offense in the league, with a multitude of weapons so this offense isn't reliant on any one player to have a great game to move the ball except DC. There will be games this year when Coop has a huge game and Crab doesn't. And yes the drops have been disappointing, but you gotta keep going to him. Hell, Crabtree dropped the ball more then anyone on the team last year and Carr didn't lose confidence in him. Same with Seth Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, NightTrainLane said: \ As far as playing second fiddle, if we are going down the path of who is the #1 WR, it's Crabtree and it shouldn't even be a convo in my mind. You ask defenders around the league who is the Raiders #1 wr and who they are most afraid of, and I guarantee its coop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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