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steelers need a new centre as we move in to the post-pouncey era which is coming soon, and could do with a barron replacement

with those i’d argue we are a title contender with ben back and an extra year of development under the belt of diontae johnson and james washington 

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Depending on if we can/will keep some key free agents (JPP, Suh, Jameis):

In no order

OT, QB, IDL, S, RB, IOL, EDGE

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10 hours ago, Riftty said:

So I'm noticing a lot of teams needing oline help. Has this been a historical issue? Like have teams always been light on oline help? Or is it a change in times?

Offensive Linemen generally take 2-3 years to develop into quality starters. So if entire swaths of the NFL were ignoring Offensive Line for an extended period of time, it makes sense that they would all suddenly need OL very quickly, even though these players do take time to develop. Some offensive lines also aren't as bad as their fans think they are. OL play is a pretty hard thing to judge and a lot of fans just go based on "how many sacks is my QB taking". If the defense comes in on a Cover 0 blitz, every lineman and blocker picks up his assignment perfectly, but the free blitzer still gets home because the QB didn't get rid of the ball in time, most fans are going to blame the OL for the sack.

Scheme also matters. Offensive schemes that emphasize holding onto the ball to hit deeper, longer developing routes will end up surrendering more sacks and pressures - making the OL look worse even if they're doing their job correctly. Atlanta and Tampa Bay are two examples of this. If you want to consistently hit the deep ball, you better be able to block well. Schemes that emphasize the short passing game and have the QB getting rid of the football quicker are going to look much better in comparison.

So you can have QB A who takes 50 sacks in a season, and QB B who takes 20 sacks in a season - most fans will assume QB A's OL is trash and QB B's OL is amazing. But this could very well be the opposite! If QB A's offense wants to chuck it deep, he's going to take a lot more sacks - and QB B's offense wants to just dink and dunk, then he won't take many. It's still possible that QB A's OL was fantastic the entire year given what they were expected to block for, and that QB B's OL was actually quite poor and was masked by the QB being able to get rid of the football quickly. This is what makes OL play very difficult to quantify objectively.

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Panthers have needs pretty much all over the entire team.

QB: Assuming Cam is jettisoned so this is a desperate need.
RB: CMC is good and the backups are fine, not really priority but a late round flyer would be fine.
WR: DJ Moore is good and Curtis Samuel is OK, no depth and could use a bigger guy to help out the smaller speed options here.
TE: We have nothing here.
OT: Taylor Moton is okay but Greg Little and Dennis Daley didn't have inspiring rookie campaigns so gonna consider this a major need.
OG: Trai Turner is good everyone else is bad.
C: Matt Paradis is a huge FA bust. Need depth as well.

DE: Brian Burns is only edge player signed for next season I think. Irvin, Addison both FAs, Horton retired.
DT: KK Short is only interior guy signed for next season with Dontari Poe being a likely cap casualty.
LB: Shaq Thompson is good but the depth is mediocre and not sure we have anyone even 1/5 as good as Luke.
CB: Bradberry and Cockrell are FAs. Donte Jackson sucks. Desperate need.
S: Eric Reid is OK. Tre Boston will probably re-sign. Could use depth though.

K: Graham Gano missed all of last season and was inconsistent in 2018. Joey Slye is bad.
P: Palardy is good.
LS: Jansen is good.

Good thing we have a ton of needs with Marty Hurney still employed as our GM and a Baylor guy with no NFL experience as his new assistant.

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The Steelers need to reload the offensive and defensive lines, and find an athletic TE. Other than that, maybe a CB or ILB for depth. In spite of their record, they don't really have many needs. Better injury luck on offense is all they need to become legitimate playoff contenders again.

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The Raiders

QB- Carr is an enigma.  Some of us feel like he needs more weapons.  Some feel like he needs replaced.  I feel like unless you want to create another hole in the roster, you keep him and add more talent on the outside.  Backup?

RB- Jacobs is the truth.  Love the guy.  Plays his guts out and at times carried the offense.  Back up RB could be a position of need.

FB- Ingold was a UDFA last year and has filled in nicely.  

WR- Tyrell Williams and Hunter Renfrow are nice, but they are spots 2 and 3 respectively.  Finding a true #1 in this draft is my personal goal.  Consider depth?

TE- We are set for a while.  Waller is young and Moreau behind him was a great pick up by GM Mike Mayock

OL- Miller at LT looked good with some time at the position.  RG we have the curious case of Gabe Jackson who is making a ton of money, and didn't play up to expectation.  Most of us think it is because of injury, though, when Denzelle Good filled in, he filled in great.  Rodney Hudson... set at C.  LG we just signed Richie to a two year deal and he has looked fantastic.  Pending he keeps his head on straight.  RT we have one of the best OT in the league in Trent Brown.  With Hudson and Richie getting older, might consider C and  G depth?

DL- As a group we are young and talented.  Just need time for growth.  Ferrell was somewhat of a disappointment.  Though his ceiling wasn't ever Mack-esk.  He was touted as high floor style of pick.  On the other side Maxx Crosby... 10 sacks as a rookie and TONS of disruptive plays.  In the middle we have a good mix of youth and talent.  Hall is more of a rotational guy.  Hurst and Hankins are both holding it together, though I would like to see Hurst take the next step in his growth.  Pass rushing DT would be a welcomed addition.  

LB- This is where you will find most in agreement in the Raiders forum.  LB in any capacity over the last 2 decades has been our sore spot.  The middle of our D hasn't seen a plus talent since the days of Romo and Biekert.  Which coincidentally was our last SB era.  Look for that to change with MM and JG at the helm.  Fully expect us to land a LB at 12th or 19th pick this year. Definite need.  1a to WRs 1b.

CB- After trading Conley to the Texans, Mullen stepped up in a major way.  For a rookie, there was no drop of when in coverage.  That makes me think all signs are pointing upward with him.  He should take the next step in year two.  Across from his was a who's who list of ... who??  Keisean Nixon, Isiah Johnson.. etc.  LaMarcus Joyner filled in at times but should predominately be in the slot.  We most definitely need someone to step in and fill the void across from Mullen.  Look to FA?

S- Pending the return of Karl Joseph, S could potentially be a need going forward.  We added Jonathan Abram in the draft last year and in the limited action he saw (due to injury in week 1) he looked 'Lights Out".  If KaJo comes back, we should be just fine with Abram and Joseph.  Some solid depth with Harris and Joyner filling in at times.  S is a potential need.  

 

QB - If we keep Carr, QB is not a need miuns a reasonable backup.

RB - Will need someone to spell Jacobs.  Solid #2.

FB - Set.

WR - Biggest need going forward.  Do expect to draft a guy at 12.  Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs.

TE - Set.

OL - G and C depth only.

DL - Interior pass rush and overall line depth...Kinlaw or Brown in the draft is WR 1 is off the board.  

LB - First/Second biggest need.  1a to WR 1b.  Across the board.  I want Littleton.

CB- Third biggest need going forward.  I would expect to see us active in FA.  

S - Depending on what happens with Karl Joseph.  

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On 2/8/2020 at 3:30 AM, Hukos said:

Offensive Linemen generally take 2-3 years to develop into quality starters. So if entire swaths of the NFL were ignoring Offensive Line for an extended period of time, it makes sense that they would all suddenly need OL very quickly, even though these players do take time to develop. Some offensive lines also aren't as bad as their fans think they are. OL play is a pretty hard thing to judge and a lot of fans just go based on "how many sacks is my QB taking". If the defense comes in on a Cover 0 blitz, every lineman and blocker picks up his assignment perfectly, but the free blitzer still gets home because the QB didn't get rid of the ball in time, most fans are going to blame the OL for the sack.

Scheme also matters. Offensive schemes that emphasize holding onto the ball to hit deeper, longer developing routes will end up surrendering more sacks and pressures - making the OL look worse even if they're doing their job correctly. Atlanta and Tampa Bay are two examples of this. If you want to consistently hit the deep ball, you better be able to block well. Schemes that emphasize the short passing game and have the QB getting rid of the football quicker are going to look much better in comparison.

So you can have QB A who takes 50 sacks in a season, and QB B who takes 20 sacks in a season - most fans will assume QB A's OL is trash and QB B's OL is amazing. But this could very well be the opposite! If QB A's offense wants to chuck it deep, he's going to take a lot more sacks - and QB B's offense wants to just dink and dunk, then he won't take many. It's still possible that QB A's OL was fantastic the entire year given what they were expected to block for, and that QB B's OL was actually quite poor and was masked by the QB being able to get rid of the football quickly. This is what makes OL play very difficult to quantify objectively.

Good gosh, sir, that was an informative and educational post. Thank you!

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Jets...

#1 by far. OL. We literally need an entire new OL. LT, LG, C, RG, RT. They were all bad. 

#2 WR

#3 CB

#4 Edge rusher

#5 Back up QB

We need a new roster pretty much. 

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6 hours ago, bzane said:

Good gosh, sir, that was an informative and educational post. Thank you!

You also have to take into account the OL cycles are continuous..   need OL so your rookies are starting,  when in reality most/all of them have terrible technique.. so they are learning on the fly.   Which in most cases leads to the team still needing to address the OL.  Honestly believe this is why you see so many late/udfa starring along the OL

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Top 3 for Las Vegas:

  1. LB. Doesn't matter if it's inside or out, we need 3-4 new ones. Preferably ones who can cover semi-competently.
  2. WR. Hunter is a nice slot piece and Tyrell Williams can be a good number two, but we need a real #1 dude aka Lamb or Jeudy.
  3. CB. Mullen looks promising and we have a few other young guys, but we need a real #2 to pair with Trayvon. Worley is a FA and I hope Joyner is moved back to S.

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2 hours ago, samsel23 said:

You also have to take into account the OL cycles are continuous..   need OL so your rookies are starting,  when in reality most/all of them have terrible technique.. so they are learning on the fly.   Which in most cases leads to the team still needing to address the OL.  Honestly believe this is why you see so many late/udfa starring along the OL

OL play is something that's just hard to gauge unless you're watching the film pretty hardcore. I've seen good offensive line play get blamed because the QB held onto the ball for too long, or walked into a pass rusher (because the QB didn't have particularly good awareness). That's something you have to judge on a case by case basis - some teams do legitimately have bad offensive lines, and some are just fans complaining. OL players also need a lot of reps. A rookie tackle is probably going to look atrocious in his first year in the league, but could legitimately blossom into being a top 10 tackle two years later - so it's important that the team be good at self-scouting so that they don't throw out a potential talent just because of a rough rookie campaign. It's just a difficult position to play because of how athletic defensive linemen/linebackers are.

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