ET80 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Hukos said: I'm also assuming that it's extremely difficult to get a QB comparable to Dak, because a lot of FF posters are convinced that you can draft a dude in the 3rd round and he'll also be a star. I personally don't buy into that. If someone would put this on a bumper sticker, I'd put it on my car. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, ET80 said: If someone would put this on a bumper sticker, I'd put it on my car. Well said. A lot of the takes in NFL gen, especially on QB play, are usually pretty good at getting me to shake my head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Matts4313 said: As for your second question: most players, QBs included, bust. This question would be like me asking "should the Rams trade Aaron Donald because Wade is a good DC (couple years ago)" or "Should the Pats trade Gilmore because Billy B finds lots of DBs". I just don't see it, personally. Seems like a weird question. You compared Dak as the Aaron Donald or Stephon Gilmore of QBs and you think someone else said something weird? Together, they are the last 3 DPOY winners. Dak was the 14th and 10th rated passer the last 2 years. The point of the exercise is that the Cowboys have not had much success with 4 years of cheap Dak (1 playoff win) and giving him a 3000% raise may not change the results. So the rest of us can discuss if going cheap with a new player or signing someone else would be a possible alternative to breaking the bank for him. No one else's football world revolves around Dak Prescott so the investment level is vastly different in this exercise for the rest of us. Its likely just a thought exercise since the safe play is to keep him and both Jerry and Dak want Dak to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, SkippyX said: You compared Dak as the Aaron Donald or Stephon Gilmore of QBs and you think someone else said something weird? No I didnt, I was trying to give examples. And those popped into my mind. That said, QB>>> DT/CB - he is more valuable a player. And that will be reflected in salary. I assume the rest of your post was based off this premise, so its useless and I didnt read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just came in this thread to add my expert analytical opinion: Dak sucks 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 hours ago, TVScout said: 11 hours ago, Danger said: Amari Cooper, Randall Cobb, Michael Gallup or Greg Ward, Robert Davis, Deontay Burnet/Nelson Agholor? idk man I think I might have to go with the Cowboys on this one lol. Did you see the stats? Cowboy WRs drop the ball 6.2 % of the time. Eagles drop it 4.7% of the time. Now take those same Stats and tell me You still wouldn't take Your Trio a 100 out of a 100 times? Just because they apparently can't catch the ball better then 3 Scrubs, doesn't mean they aren't the better of the two WR Core. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 If you have an above average QB, who is 26 years old, you keep him. You can't gamble with that. End of story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 hours ago, ET80 said: 13 hours ago, Hukos said: I'm also assuming that it's extremely difficult to get a QB comparable to Dak, because a lot of FF posters are convinced that you can draft a dude in the 3rd round and he'll also be a star. I personally don't buy into that. If someone would put this on a bumper sticker, I'd put it on my car. Well said. For every Dak Prescott, there's like 5 Ryan Finley's lol. Good luck trying to guess the right one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 17 hours ago, Matts4313 said: How does the CBA change the impact? Rookie wage scale is the argument you are making? Here is my counter argument: When Watson/Jackson/Mahomes/Allen/Dak all get new deals and keep making the playoffs - - will you maintain this position? Well Mahomes likely will because he's a generational talent. The others? Let's see how they do when the team is bereft of talent elsewhere and they are forced carry less. Another wait and see moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, BStanRamFan said: Well Mahomes likely will because he's a generational talent. The others? Let's see how they do when the team is bereft of talent elsewhere and they are forced carry less. Another wait and see moment. It's going to be interesting to watch. Because this theory then depends on teams like the Bengals, Dolphins, Browns, Broncos, Giants, Cardinals, Lions, Chargers and Panthers to actually make the playoffs and take those team's spots. AKA teams that are taking rookie QB's this year, or still have guys on rookie deals. Might it happen? Sure. But those teams have a long way to go, even if the QB situation is solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, theJ said: It's going to be interesting to watch. Because this theory then depends on teams like the Bengals, Dolphins, Browns, Broncos, Giants, Cardinals, Lions, Chargers and Panthers to actually make the playoffs and take those team's spots. AKA teams that are taking rookie QB's this year, or still have guys on rookie deals. Might it happen? Sure. But those teams have a long way to go, even if the QB situation is solved. I actually could see the Giants, Browns, Panthers, Cardinals, and Bengals making a run a WC spots next season for my exact premise. Let's see what the Chargers do, but any young QB that has Ekeler, Mike WIlliams, Keenan Allen, and hopefuly re-sign Hunter Henry will enter the league with a plethora of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTimes Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Part of the thinking among NFL execs is looking at what successful teams are doing at the QB position. The playoff teams from 2019 had: KC -- Mahomes -- first round pick SF -- Garappolo -- second round pick TEN -- Tannehill -- first round pick GB -- Rodgers -- first round pick BAL -- Jackson -- first round pick NE -- Brady -- sixth round pick MIN -- Cousins -- fourth round pick SEA -- Wilson -- third round pick NO -- Brees -- second round pick BUF -- Allen -- first round pick HOU -- Watson -- first round pick PHI -- Wentz -- first round pick The guys drafted in the last 5 years are in bold. Right now it's a QB-driven league, and you'd better pick one early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, TDTimes said: Part of the thinking among NFL execs is looking at what successful teams are doing at the QB position. The playoff teams from 2019 had: KC -- Mahomes -- first round pick SF -- Garappolo -- second round pick TEN -- Tannehill -- first round pick GB -- Rodgers -- first round pick BAL -- Jackson -- first round pick NE -- Brady -- sixth round pick MIN -- Cousins -- fourth round pick SEA -- Wilson -- third round pick NO -- Brees -- second round pick BUF -- Allen -- first round pick HOU -- Watson -- first round pick PHI -- Wentz -- first round pick The guys drafted in the last 5 years are in bold. Right now it's a QB-driven league, and you'd better pick one early. 9 out of 12 were in the first two rounds. and one of them is Tom Brady. (Tom Bradys don't grow on trees) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matts4313 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: This still fails to address the point I have made ad nauseum. 1 year cap hit numbers are inconsequential to giving a QB a large contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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