Calvert28 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: People and organizations have the right to change, adapt and grow. Telling him to go f himself seems counter productive. Should be encouraged that he finally got on board. I don't agree with any of this outside of the peaceful protesting. But Goodell is just doing this to stay ahead of the curb and pander. I doubt he really cares. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 6, 2020 Author Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Calvert28 said: I don't agree with any of this outside of the peaceful protesting. But Goodell is just doing this to stay ahead of the curb and pander. I doubt he really cares. Dont agree with any of what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Dont agree with any of what? Most of it. I can't get into specific details cause I just know that will explode. But I don't agree with marching with BLM I agree with marching against biased police and brutality. I don't think that group was started from a good place nor do I think they are led by good people, nor do I think the upper group leaders actually believe what their preaching. Edited June 6, 2020 by Calvert28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Matts4313 said: So, Jerry gonna let player kneel or nah? Should Jerry come out and clarify his stance? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737631-jerry-jones-says-a-cowboys-player-who-disrespects-the-flag-wont-play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, TheGame316 said: So, Jerry gonna let player kneel or nah? Should Jerry come out and clarify his stance? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737631-jerry-jones-says-a-cowboys-player-who-disrespects-the-flag-wont-play There is so much pandering going on, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 18 hours ago, Matts4313 said: People and organizations have the right to change, adapt and grow. Telling him to go f himself seems counter productive. Should be encouraged that he finally got on board. If he’s sincere, and change actually comes, then I give him a lot of props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 My simple solution is... everyone stands for the national anthem … when it is over everyone can lock arms/kneel whatever in solidarity... how the F can anyone complain now ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: My simple solution is... everyone stands for the national anthem … when it is over everyone can lock arms/kneel whatever in solidarity... how the F can anyone complain now ??? Oversimplification for $500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: My simple solution is... everyone stands for the national anthem … when it is over everyone can lock arms/kneel whatever in solidarity... how the F can anyone complain now ??? Because the purpose of the kneel is to protest based on their terms, not yours. Using it in that situation has a specific purpose and sends a very specific message. Remember, it’s not about the anthem or the flag. It never has been, and never will be. Edited June 7, 2020 by plan9misfit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Because the purpose of the kneel is to protest based on their terms, not yours. Using it in that situation has a specific purpose and sends a very specific message. Remember, it’s not about the anthem or the flag. It never has been, and never will be. For some people. many actually, there is never a reason to kneel during the anthem. Many believe the Flag comes first and always.. Of course you guys know best.. Edited June 7, 2020 by resilient part 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 21 hours ago, matt79511 said: Oversimplification for $500 what's the Solution for the Daily Double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Because the purpose of the kneel is to protest based on their terms, not yours. Using it in that situation has a specific purpose and sends a very specific message. Remember, it’s not about the anthem or the flag. It never has been, and never will be. While I understand the purpose count me in line with those that feel it disrespects a class of people that have done as much or more for our personal freedoms. And yes protesting on “their” terms over “ours” is a good argument but it spits in the face of veterans who fought and gave their lives for the flag. It also is a shame that some people - make that a lot use these protests to promote their own level of violence that most of the time actually hurts More the people the protests are trying to help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtnldave Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 10:40 PM, Calvert28 said: Most of it. I can't get into specific details cause I just know that will explode. But I don't agree with marching with BLM I agree with marching against biased police and brutality. I don't think that group was started from a good place nor do I think they are led by good people, nor do I think the upper group leaders actually believe what their preaching. 86 people shot in Chicago last weekend. 25 dead. In a weekend!!!! Many of them African American. Can anybody name one of them? Just one? I had to look them up. Nothing written about this. As much as I agree with the call to end police brutality, and believe me, I agree with it! I do take offense to terms like "white privlidge" and " white supremacy." The latter conjures up images if Nazi's and Hitler. Now I know things are bad, but DAMN! And as for the former, look, I graduated Southern HS in Philly. I worked in a restaurant while also trying to earn a record deal in a band for 10 years. I was broke, living in a 1 room rattle, eating leftovers from work. I got wise at 28 and went back to school. It took 3 years to graduate a 2 year community college because I had to pay for everything myself. It was the same at Temple and Rowan. Point is, I worked my *** off, sacrificed, starved and clawed to get to a respectable place in life. No one gave it to me and I sure as hell was not from privilege. And today, I spend a great deal of time working with children of all ethnicities and also teenagers. I share my experiences to show them, you can make it, you can be successful. So I think BLM's heart is in the right place, but if they do not recognize what's happening to African Americans in cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia etc, by there own ethnicity, then all of this noise falls short of the very point they are trying to make. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 This topic needs to be dropped now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtnldave Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, D82 said: This topic needs to be dropped now. Roger that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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