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Are you a believer that Gardner Minshew a legit NFL starting QB


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Are you a Minshew believer?  

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  1. 1. What would you do

    • Roll with Minshew he’s a starter
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    • Trade up for a top QB this year
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    • Try to draft QB later outside the first round
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I don’t think so 

I don’t think he’s a Super Bowl caliber QB. And I think Jacksonville needs to trade up with Detroit at pick 3 to draft Tua. 
 

Minshew has a great rookie season, but do I think he can compete against the future of the AFC QBs. I don’t think so even in a best case scenario. Jacksonville is my surprise team to trade up, and I really believe they need to do it while they’re in the perfect position. Pick 3 is going to be available and they’re close enough that the jump is feasible  I’d trade a 2021 first to move up to 3 and secure Tua. Have Minshew start while Tua recovers then trade Minshew next year if possible.

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I've shared my opinion on Minshew in other threads - I think he's another Case Keenum, someone who can look very good in spots, but is too reliant on off script plays to maintain production. He's just as likely to hit a big 50 yard scoring play as he is to take a 15 yard sack or throw a pick six into double coverage. 

He's a good holdover to someone who might be a big name. If you were to give Jacob Eason a shot in TC, he could win the starting gig - but even if he didn't, you could give him a RS season while Minshew takes the starting role for a season.

I think any Minshew-led team is capped at a 9-7 season, and that's with a LOT of breaks in the way. 

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Moreso now than ever, there’s a round bias placed on QBs. I feel like it plays a big part in the perception of Dak Prescott vs like Carson Wentz. If Gardner Minshew was drafted in the first round, even the second I don’t think we are having this conversation. I think Gardner has earned the right to attempt and to try to get developed like anyone else has.

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20 minutes ago, JoshstraDaymus said:

Moreso now than ever, there’s a round bias placed on QBs. I feel like it plays a big part in the perception of Dak Prescott vs like Carson Wentz. If Gardner Minshew was drafted in the first round, even the second I don’t think we are having this conversation. I think Gardner has earned the right to attempt and to try to get developed like anyone else has.

But do you pass on the potential of acquiring a true expected franchise QB like Tua for a maybe in Minshew. 

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No one ever got more good press for leading his teams to 3, 6, 10, 12, and 12 points in 5 of his 12 starts.

Sure, you can start him for the next 15 years if you have no interest in winning.

If that makes him a starter then he's a starter.

The teams he beat:

  • 2-11 Dalton Bengals
  • 2-6 Flacco Broncos
  • 2-4 Mariota Titans
  • 7-9 Raiders on a 1-5 slide to end the season
  • 7-9 Indy on a 1-5 slide to end the season
  • 7-6 Darnold Jets

His passer rating was fine because 13 fumbles with 7 lost don't count against passer rating. 

He led the Jags to 15 points against the Texans in 2 games.

Drew Lock put up 17 points on the Texans in the 2nd quarter.

 

This does not mean he can't eventually grow into a starting NFL QB. He just kinda sucks right now.

 

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I got to see him play against my Falcons this year and I was... unimpressed. The Falcons had one of the worst secondaries in all of professional football this year and Minshew struggled against them. That's a major red flag to me. His WRs are definitely bad (if you're not getting open against Isiah Oliver, you're just straight up trash) but I think there's a pretty seriously ceiling on his potential. I'm not convinced. We're not exactly world beaters on defense, so I just find that pretty alarming.

Maybe he was better in other games, I didn't get to watch a lot of Jaguars games this year.

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