sdrawkcab321 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, RamblinMan99 said: Reggie Bush was a major draft bust. Everybody was freaking out back in 2006 when Houston went with Mario Williams instead. No, Mario Williams actually had a pretty solid career. Bush barely rushed for 1,000 yards in just two seasons, had negative yardage after his last season, and was out of the league before he was even 35. Honestly, his career was terrible. I agree. He wasn’t the biggest bust but he was hyped up to be the next Barry sanders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL Guapo Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I remember the Jets trading up and getting Dewyane Robertson, he was a big disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 (edited) Jamarcus Russell. Because he truly was a non-QB. Mandarich def gets a lot of love because it seemed like he was a can’t miss guy. Edited February 13, 2020 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 11:30 PM, DannyB said: If we're taking into account the opportunity cost of what was RIGHT THERE FOR THE TAKING?... Who was picked after Tony Mandarich was picked SECOND overall in 1989?... #2 Barry Sanders #3 Derrick Thomas #4 Deion Sanders ugh. That was my pick. When you are consensus best ever prospect at your position and bust, that is big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 hours ago, FalconFan13 said: He's not even a bust as a pass rusher thats ridiculous to say. He might not be some 15 sack a year monster but he's far from a bust considering he is avging around 8 a year almost. I think people really don't understand what bust means. If were talking about a bust i would imagine it's a top 3 pick that was expected to be some world beater and can't miss prospect like Chase Young is this year. If he comes out and gives around 3 sacks a year and makes no probowls then i would consider him a bust. But the 8th pick in the draft and not even the #1 DE coming out giving you an avg of 8 a year is not a bust. Now if you want to talk Falcons busts with the 8th pick then we can talk Jamaal fricken Anderson 6 years and 7.5 sacks total now thats garbage. I'm not referring to his production, his technical skill as a pass rusher is just... bad. His sacks tend to come from circumstances that he isn't control of. His production has consistently been above his actual skill level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Hukos said: I'm not referring to his production, his technical skill as a pass rusher is just... bad. His sacks tend to come from circumstances that he isn't control of. His production has consistently been above his actual skill level. Rather it's above his skill level or not doesn't matter. The fact he actually produced them on the field in a real game is what matters. I have watched every single play he has played in and i know he's not a very technical player at all and relies on nothing but a speed rush. The thing is that his speed rush is so fast at times he can actually beat some OT's with it He won't beat all of them or the really good ones usually. But you are making him out to be like he is straight trash and garbage which he has not been. Jamaal Anderson was a bust Vic Beasley is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyB Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 hours ago, dll2000 said: That was my pick. When you are consensus best ever prospect at your position and bust, that is big. Combined with what they missed out on? He's got a rock-solid case for this award. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, FalconFan13 said: Rather it's above his skill level or not doesn't matter. The fact he actually produced them on the field in a real game is what matters. I have watched every single play he has played in and i know he's not a very technical player at all and relies on nothing but a speed rush. The thing is that his speed rush is so fast at times he can actually beat some OT's with it He won't beat all of them or the really good ones usually. But you are making him out to be like he is straight trash and garbage which he has not been. Jamaal Anderson was a bust Vic Beasley is not. I've defended him as a coverage guy before. He's nice as a spy - and I think he would have some minor success as a 3-4 OLB. I don't hate the guy or anything, but he's been a horrible fit in Atlanta. I could see him going to a team like Houston and being better than most people expect, because he fits what they're doing better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 hours ago, Hukos said: I've defended him as a coverage guy before. He's nice as a spy - and I think he would have some minor success as a 3-4 OLB. I don't hate the guy or anything, but he's been a horrible fit in Atlanta. I could see him going to a team like Houston and being better than most people expect, because he fits what they're doing better. Im not denying what you said on that and agree he would be better on other teams in different schemes. All im defending is the fact he wasn't a bust and for being in a horrible fit actually played somewhat decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Showed up to 1 day of training camp after the Vikings picked him in the first round. That's all we got out of him! Dimitrius Underwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, TENINCH said: Showed up to 1 day of training camp after the Vikings picked him in the first round. That's all we got out of him! Dimitrius Underwood Why? did he just leave because he didnt like the game or injuries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Gravity said: Why? did he just leave because he didnt like the game or injuries? Had some serious mental illnesses. He returned to the NFL for a bit - with the Jets if not a couple more teams - but never did much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 4:15 PM, sdrawkcab321 said: and was out of the league before he was even 35. this isnt that big of a deal for RBs.. I think age and how long they play to are more concerning to OL and QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) On 2/12/2020 at 10:40 AM, SkippyX said: On 2/12/2020 at 10:40 AM, SkippyX said: Trubisky easy since the next 2 QBs might both wind up in the HoF and one of them is already MVP and SB MVP. They also traded up to take him so he cost a bunch. Just plain bad player without context then maybe someone from this list: Gholston of course Charles Rogers Danny Watkins Jamal Reynolds Wendell Bryant Jerome McDougle Troy Williamson Justin Harrell Jason Smith Then there are guys like Justin Blackmon who was pretty good in the 20 games he played but could not stay out of trouble. Man, he just turned 30 and is still not able to play. For Entertainment Purposes Only: Top 5 picks in the 1989 NFL Draft 1 - Troy Aikman - HoF 2 - Tony Mandarich 3 - Barry Sanders - HoF 4 - Derrick Thomas - HoF 5 - Deion Sanders - HoF Ouch! Unfortunately for 'da Bears, it's looking like Trubisky is going to be a staple of these lists for years to come - right up there near Ryan Leaf (although I would take Trubisky over Leaf). Edited February 15, 2020 by Uncle Buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 RGIII gets a pass at #2 overall but Wilson, Foles, and Cousins we’re still on the board. Cousins was a better DC QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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