Guest Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, swede700 said: That ain't gonna happen. At worst, I see an 8-win season. I look at our competition in the division and they haven't really gotten better either. I have faith in the coaching staff that, while that can't turn water into wine, they can certainly turn it into pretty damn good beer. Maybe. No one in the NFC North has so far really improved in the off season. The Packers have not gained any talent, and probably less talent on the offensive side of the ball. The efforts to turn the Lions into the Patriots continue...but, they are still the Lions coached by Patricia, not Belichek. Who knows what the heck is going on in Chicago. The Vikings have not improved either. The winner of the division may only need to win 9 games! So, the Vikings are probably in the running under that kind of scenario. Yet, after winning double digit games in 2019, with a thrilling win over New Orleans in the Wild Card round, Viking fans might've expected more this offseason...and a lot can still happen. But, if the season began and started today, March 19, 2020, the Vikings only win 8 games, the Packers win 9. Edited March 19, 2020 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrplChilPill Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: I think we’re good enough at home to put together 4-6 wins from those games alone. Throw in a couple road wins, I think we’re looking 7-9 wins barring an unbelievable draft class. My thoughts exactly. 8-9 wins, unless the draft class is epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 11:27 AM, TENINCH said: Sure would like to see what he could do with a Patrick Mahomes type player. Few and far between but now Andy Reid is regarded as some great coach when he's had Franchise QB's nearly his entire coaching career. Zimmer has been shafted on QB's since he got here outside of getting Cousins. And he will continue to be "shafted" as long as Spielman is the guy in charge of attaining the QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, PrplChilPill said: My thoughts exactly. 8-9 wins, unless the draft class is epic. I think they will have to absolutely hit the entire offseason out of the park personally. Edited March 19, 2020 by Hyperborean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hyperborean said: And he will continue to be "shafted" as long as Spielman is the guy in charge of attaining the QBs. I don't believe that's a fair criticism, considering sans a devastating injury we might have still had Teddy, who's now going to be starting in Carolina. You can't really blame Spielman for not retaining him, although I still wish he would have instead of signing Kirk. It's a tough pill to swallow to bet your job on a guy who still hadn't fully recovered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) I just look at the fact that Zimmer went 7-9 with a team that had a rookie QB in Teddy, no Adrian Peterson, Greg Jennings, Charles Johnson and Jarius Wright at WR and only 3 defensive starters over the age of 27. If he can make that work, I 100% think he can make this work. Ye of little faith. Edited March 19, 2020 by swede700 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babababa Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Unless this team completely flops next year Zimmer will deservedly be back Barring a draft that sees poor returns from the 1st day picks, the Vikings will be back in the playoffs IMO. I don't know if we'll be so successful come the playoffs, but the hope is to improved enough to be in the Super Bowl in 2021. Re-signing Cousins was a good move. He earned my respect last season and a few more years heading the offense seems right. Re-sign Cook obviously. The secondary is the biggest concern right now. I like Mike Hughes, but he was completely destroyed by Amari Cooper last year. I don't want him lining up to face him ever again. https://zonecoverage.com/2019/minnesota-vikings-news/second-look-revisiting-mike-hughes-performance-vs-dallas/ Edited March 19, 2020 by babababa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Hyperborean said: And he will continue to be "shafted" as long as Spielman is the guy in charge of attaining the QBs. What would you have done during his tenure that he didn't do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I can handle a bad season if we can find a couple starters on the offensive and defensive lines. Something to cement the oline so it's not an issue anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 10:16 PM, Uncle Buck said: What would you have done during his tenure that he didn't do? I wouldn't have drafted Ponder. Not in the first anyway. I really can't fault him for Teddy or Cousins honestly. We didn't have much of an option. But I definitely wouldn't have extended Cousins. He's had his chance and it's fairly obvious he's not a championship QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 3:36 PM, swede700 said: I don't believe that's a fair criticism, considering sans a devastating injury we might have still had Teddy, who's now going to be starting in Carolina. You can't really blame Spielman for not retaining him, although I still wish he would have instead of signing Kirk. It's a tough pill to swallow to bet your job on a guy who still hadn't fully recovered. I guess that's true. I just think Spielman has been snakebitten on drafting QBs and isn't going to do it again. It certainly won't happen this season after the Cousins extension. I'm through with Cousins and wish the Vikings were too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperborean Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 3:44 PM, swede700 said: I just look at the fact that Zimmer went 7-9 with a team that had a rookie QB in Teddy, no Adrian Peterson, Greg Jennings, Charles Johnson and Jarius Wright at WR and only 3 defensive starters over the age of 27. If he can make that work, I 100% think he can make this work. Ye of little faith. Guilty as charged. I'll believe it when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikestyle Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Hyperborean said: I wouldn't have drafted Ponder. Not in the first anyway. I really can't fault him for Teddy or Cousins honestly. We didn't have much of an option. But I definitely wouldn't have extended Cousins. He's had his chance and it's fairly obvious he's not a championship QB. In fairness to Spielman, the Ponder pick was when the triangle of authority was still in command, so I can't put that one all on him. I do agree on Cousins, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Hyperborean said: I wouldn't have drafted Ponder. Not in the first anyway. I really can't fault him for Teddy or Cousins honestly. We didn't have much of an option. But I definitely wouldn't have extended Cousins. He's had his chance and it's fairly obvious he's not a championship QB. While I do tend to agree with you, he doesn't have a ton of options that are a whole lot better. Kirk had a decent season, and there may or may not be a QB available in the draft that can do a whole lot better. Burrow and Tua will more than likely be gone, and the others after that are a total crapshoot. In this situation, sticking with Kirk is likely the higher percentage choice, even though I also doubt that he has what it takes to win a Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) SB is out of the question in 2020-21. If they decide to take a WR is the 1st round (to replace Diggs), then forget about 2021-22 as well. We just saw what two all pro WRs can give this offense (with Cousins). Don't expect anything different, even if we luck out and draft another rookie all pro WR. The trenches must be drafted highly, and luck into stud talent there, which bumps multiple positions on the respective side. I want guys that play the highest % of snaps (that fit the roster), which outside of QB, is likely OL, 3T, Edge & CB. That's where the top 3 picks should go IMO Edited March 23, 2020 by CriminalMind 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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