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2020 FF Consensus Mock Draft [Pick 30 - Green Bay Packers]

WHO DO THEY PICK?  

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  1. 1. -FIRST CHOICE-

    • CB Trevon Diggs
    • DL Justin Madabuike
    • DL Neville Gallimore
    • DL Raekwon Davis
    • DL Ross Blacklock
    • EDGE Curtis Weaver
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    • EDGE Terrell Lewis
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    • EDGE/LB Zach Baun
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    • IOL Cesar Ruiz
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    • IOL Lloyd Cushenberry
    • LB Patrick Queen
    • OT Prince Tega Wanogho
    • RB D'Andre Swift
    • S Xavier McKinney
    • WR Brandon Aiyuk
    • WR Jalen Reagor
    • WR Justin Jefferson
    • WR KJ Hamler
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    • Other [Specify]
  2. 2. -SECOND CHOICE-

    • CB Trevon Diggs
    • DL Justin Madabuike
    • DL Neville Gallimore
    • DL Raekwon Davis
    • DL Ross Blacklock
    • EDGE Curtis Weaver
    • EDGE Terrell Lewis
    • EDGE/LB Zach Baun
    • IOL Cesar Ruiz
      0
    • IOL Lloyd Cushenberry
      0
    • LB Patrick Queen
    • OT Prince Tega Wanogho
    • RB D'Andre Swift
      0
    • S Xavier McKinney
    • WR Brandon Aiyuk
    • WR Jalen Reagor
    • WR Justin Jefferson
    • WR KJ Hamler
      0
    • Other [Specify]
      0
    • Leave Blank
      0
  3. 3. -THIRD CHOICE-

    • CB Trevon Diggs
    • DL Justin Madabuike
    • DL Neville Gallimore
      0
    • DL Raekwon Davis
    • DL Ross Blacklock
    • EDGE Curtis Weaver
    • EDGE Terrell Lewis
    • EDGE/LB Zach Baun
      0
    • IOL Cesar Ruiz
      0
    • IOL Lloyd Cushenberry
    • LB Patrick Queen
    • OT Prince Tega Wanogho
    • RB D'Andre Swift
    • S Xavier McKinney
    • WR Brandon Aiyuk
    • WR Jalen Reagor
    • WR Justin Jefferson
    • WR KJ Hamler
    • Other [Specify]
      0
    • Leave Blank
      0


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30 is a tough spot.  If we have to stay at 30 then I'd probably go with Gladney.  If it had to be DL, it would be Marlon Davidson.  In fact I'm not sure why I completely forgot about him when the poll opened.  As it stands right now I wouldn't be disappointed with either of them at 30 if we stay put.

EDIT:  forgot to quote @goldfishwars

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3 hours ago, MaximusGluteus said:

30 is a tough spot.  If we have to stay at 30 then I'd probably go with Gladney.  If it had to be DL, it would be Marlon Davidson.  In fact I'm not sure why I completely forgot about him when the poll opened.  As it stands right now I wouldn't be disappointed with either of them at 30 if we stay put.

EDIT:  forgot to quote @goldfishwars

Wow ok

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51 minutes ago, MaximusGluteus said:

Why wow?

Wouldn't have had corner as one of the top five needs for the Packers and Davidson doesn't look like a 1st rounder. 

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58 minutes ago, goldfishwars said:

Wouldn't have had corner as one of the top five needs for the Packers and Davidson doesn't look like a 1st rounder. 

Drafting based solely on need is how you end up reaching.  Beyond that though, there's a good chance Tramon Williams is gone, and I don't think Kevin King will be back after this coming year because his rookie deal will be up and we still have to extend Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari.  Plus King has missed 2 of his 3 seasons with injury so it's probably not safe to trust him to stay healthy long term anyway.  Even if he is healthy this year and balls out, someone will pay him a lot of money, and I really don't think it will be us.

As for Davidson, he's been moving up the draft boards (I don't necessarily like him in the first round per se, but I don't really like any of the players that look like they might be available at 30, especially EDGE and IDL), and when I watch him on film (actual games, not highlight reels) I like him better than Blacklock, who isn't a first rounder either.  Blacklock has loads of ability, but he has a terrible habit of getting caught up fighting with o-linemen on running plays and having no idea where the ball carrier is going.  I've seen too many reps from him where the ball carrier goes one way and he's still fighting with the OL on the complete opposite side of the play, even after the play has crossed the line of scrimmage.  It makes me seriously question his awareness and processing abilities.  If it's something he can fix, then that changes things.  I've also heard others say he's a drag down tackler that likes to go for a ride after he makes contact, although I haven't personally noticed that yet.  He does have some nice pass rush moves, I'll give him that.  Good motor, too.

Davidson can play EDGE or IDL, which would fit right in to Mike Pettine's defense since he loves versatile players.  Watching Davidson on film, he's really good at pressuring the QB and is stout against the run.  My question with him is his athleticism, so we'll have to wait until the combine to see where he stands on that since our GM seems to put a lot of stock into SPARQ scores.

PFF seems to like Jordan Elliott and has him ranked as their 3rd best IDL in this draft.  I haven't watched any film on him to make any judgments though.

Would just rather see CB or even S before IDL at 30 as I think those positions will have the better players available at that pick.  After Kinlaw I think there's a pretty big drop off at IDL.  I'm generally NOT a proponent of WR, TE, RB, or ILB in the first round, so I usually won't even consider those positions unless there is a player available that's just so good you can't pass him up.  I'd be a little more forgiving of picking one of those positions at 30 rather than higher up in the first, but I think there will be plenty of good options at WR or ILB in rounds 2-3 in this draft and would rather grab a top CB or S if one is available, or even OT if one of Wills, Wirfs, or Thomas happen to fall, which I highly doubt.

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8 hours ago, MaximusGluteus said:

Drafting based solely on need is how you end up reaching.  Beyond that though, there's a good chance Tramon Williams is gone, and I don't think Kevin King will be back after this coming year because his rookie deal will be up and we still have to extend Kenny Clark and David Bakhtiari.  Plus King has missed 2 of his 3 seasons with injury so it's probably not safe to trust him to stay healthy long term anyway.  Even if he is healthy this year and balls out, someone will pay him a lot of money, and I really don't think it will be us.

Agreed, but picking reaches at non-need positions is far worse.

I like Gladney, but he's in that day two grades crop of corners for me with Diggs, Jaylon Johnson, AJ Terrell, Cameron Dantzler, Bryce Hall, Damon Arnette, Amik Robertson and Noah Igbinoghene. I think I'd take my chances on day two given Green Bay's record with taking corners high, unless you think he can give you something specific to the scheme that they cannot. He's feisty and athletic, but has a rail thin frame that worries me a little. 

Davidson is just a weird tweener prospect for me that screams day two. I don't think he is an ascending prospect at all - quite the opposite. His body looks like that of a pass-specialist, but his power is his most defining trait. But he's also someone who got locked up pretty easily at Auburn and I don't know what he gives you in terms of athleticism and juice out of the blocks. It would not be very much. Blacklock doesn't always process well, but would have an obvious role as a pass-rush specialist early on, someone who can penetrate quickly. 

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8 hours ago, goldfishwars said:

Agreed, but picking reaches at non-need positions is far worse.

I like Gladney, but he's in that day two grades crop of corners for me with Diggs, Jaylon Johnson, AJ Terrell, Cameron Dantzler, Bryce Hall, Damon Arnette, Amik Robertson and Noah Igbinoghene. I think I'd take my chances on day two given Green Bay's record with taking corners high, unless you think he can give you something specific to the scheme that they cannot. He's feisty and athletic, but has a rail thin frame that worries me a little. 

Davidson is just a weird tweener prospect for me that screams day two. I don't think he is an ascending prospect at all - quite the opposite. His body looks like that of a pass-specialist, but his power is his most defining trait. But he's also someone who got locked up pretty easily at Auburn and I don't know what he gives you in terms of athleticism and juice out of the blocks. It would not be very much. Blacklock doesn't always process well, but would have an obvious role as a pass-rush specialist early on, someone who can penetrate quickly. 

Honestly I feel like any of the projected available picks at 30 is a reach.

My thinking with CB is I think it will be a need in 2021, so I'm ok with drafting it now if a really good CB that fits our scheme is available and letting him contribute in year 1 without having to start.  And to be fair, it was Thompson who was lousy at picking defensive backs toward the end of his tenure.  Gutekunst has only drafted one corner early so far, and that was Alexander, which worked out really well.  He also drafted Savage at S last year and that looks like it's going to pan out as well.  Hopefully he'll help that up.

I do see your point about if you're going to reach you night as well reach at a position of need, and I can understand the logic of drafting Blacklock there based on his potential.  I'm hoping we're able to find a DL or two in free agency because I think relying on a rookie to contribute anything meaningful don't work out well, and we need major help now because outside of Kenny Clark our IDL is pretty bad.

Again, we'll have to see how the combine goes.  SPARQ scores will most likely be a big factor in who our GM ultimately targets.  I really wish I had more time to sit and watch that guys in the meantime.

Edited by MaximusGluteus

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