mse326 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 1:58 PM, ramssuperbowl99 said: They're missing the personalities you need to make CFB interesting. If only there was a morbidly obese degenerate they could stick in Colorado to just ham it up with the co-eds and get messed up on a regular basis all while looking like a human garbage can. They had Leach. That's enough personality for several teams and it still didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Who is the best player in the PAC-12? Nobody outside of the west coast (or draft people) would know. However, it was clear as day who the best players in the SEC, BIG 10, and ACC were this past season. Edited February 19, 2020 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Something that would really help: The PAC 12 BADLY needs Oregon to beat OSU next year. That would go a long way come playoff selection time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 North Oregon California Washington Oregon St Washington St Stanford Boise St. South Utah USC Arizona St Ucla Colorado Arizona Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Boise State and Houston are more likely to join the Big 12. And they may not be the only ones to do so. If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State leave for the SEC (a better geographic fit for them than the Pac-12), possibly as a condition of the SEC's next TV deal, the Big 12 might only survive if they become a 16-team super-league, adding Boise State, BYU, Houston, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple and UCF. The Pac-12 is fine as it is membership-wise. But I have a feeling their monopoly on Western P5 football will end by the end of the decade with the Big 12's aforementioned addition of Boise State and BYU. Right now, Stanford and USC in the next four years are going to end their seasons against BYU in years they don't end against Notre Dame. My realignment projections would include Air Force leaving the MWC for non-football membership in the Patriot League (to be with Army and Navy, geography be damned), with becoming an FBS indie in football. After that, California would end their seasons against Air Force in a continuous home-and-home series, while Stanford and USC would trade off playing Notre Dame and and UCLA to end the season. The regional rivalry games in Arizona, the Rocky Mountain States, Oregon, and Washington would continue to be a part of the Pac-12's Thanksgiving week schedule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 hours ago, pf9 said: Boise State and Houston are more likely to join the Big 12. And they may not be the only ones to do so. If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State leave for the SEC (a better geographic fit for them than the Pac-12), possibly as a condition of the SEC's next TV deal, the Big 12 might only survive if they become a 16-team super-league, adding Boise State, BYU, Houston, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple and UCF. The Pac-12 is fine as it is membership-wise. But I have a feeling their monopoly on Western P5 football will end by the end of the decade with the Big 12's aforementioned addition of Boise State and BYU. Right now, Stanford and USC in the next four years are going to end their seasons against BYU in years they don't end against Notre Dame. My realignment projections would include Air Force leaving the MWC for non-football membership in the Patriot League (to be with Army and Navy, geography be damned), with becoming an FBS indie in football. After that, California would end their seasons against Air Force in a continuous home-and-home series, while Stanford and USC would trade off playing Notre Dame and and UCLA to end the season. The regional rivalry games in Arizona, the Rocky Mountain States, Oregon, and Washington would continue to be a part of the Pac-12's Thanksgiving week schedule. The Big Ten has said it plans to go after both OU and Texas really intensely in 2024-2025, will be interesting to see if any of those teams leaves the conference, and if so where they go. SEC is not better "geographically" for OU/OSU than the Big XII. Financially? Yeah absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Oklahoma politicians will do whatever it takes to keep OU and OKST together, even if not in the Big 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 And I have my serious doubts that OU-Texas breakup. Who blinks first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp0k2 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 10:03 AM, Texansfan713 said: North Oregon California Washington Oregon St Washington St Stanford Boise St. South Utah USC Arizona St Ucla Colorado Arizona Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 why not? Houston will probably never get in the big 12. If Pac 12 were smart they would add Boise and Houston and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 12:31 PM, Danger said: And I have my serious doubts that OU-Texas breakup. Who blinks first. Even if they do, their game is an important part of the Texas State Fair festivities, and so, they'd have to shuffle future non-conference schedules to accommodate the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Boise adds nothing but I think we need to start stealing some schools in Texas. We need to break into those markets. Also, Larry Scott and his handling of the Pac-12 network hasn't been great. One of the things that hurts the conference the most on a national scale is the fact that we play 9 conference games. Many conferences (including the SEC) only play 8 conference games. That adds extra losses to the conference every year. We either need to make the NCAA force all conferences to play 9 conference games (my preference) or The Pac-12 needs to make changes to only play 8 conference games. Edited February 22, 2020 by Oregon Ducks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 4:09 PM, Oregon Ducks said: Boise adds nothing but I think we need to start stealing some schools in Texas. We need to break into those markets. Also, Larry Scott and his handling of the Pac-12 network hasn't been great. One of the things that hurts the conference the most on a national scale is the fact that we play 9 conference games. Many conferences (including the SEC) only play 8 conference games. That adds extra losses to the conference every year. We either need to make the NCAA force all conferences to play 9 conference games (my preference) or The Pac-12 needs to make changes to only play 8 conference games. Great points on the network and OOC scheduling. I don't think Boise adds nothing, but certainly not what some people will think. Part of the appeal of Boise is that they are in a smaller conference and can dominate there. Heading into a conference like the Pac-12, and you take away a major reason for some recruits to come there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 1:09 PM, Oregon Ducks said: Boise adds nothing but I think we need to start stealing some schools in Texas. We need to break into those markets. Also, Larry Scott and his handling of the Pac-12 network hasn't been great. One of the things that hurts the conference the most on a national scale is the fact that we play 9 conference games. Many conferences (including the SEC) only play 8 conference games. That adds extra losses to the conference every year. We either need to make the NCAA force all conferences to play 9 conference games (my preference) or The Pac-12 needs to make changes to only play 8 conference games. Yeah, Boise doesn't meet any of the Pac's criteria. San Diego State and Colorado State makes more sense if they feel like they need more teams. The pipe dream would be adding Texas, Oklahoma, and their hanger-on's (Okie and Tech/Baylor?) but I don't think that is feasible. The Pac Committee would definitely not genuflect and prostrate to the Longhorn's every whim. Houston+Baylor and SDSU+CSU OR Fresno St would be a more realistic add. Although status quo, and freeing up a conference for Non-Con probably makes the MOST sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Big Ten plays 9. I don't know about the other confs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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