DaBoys Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 27 years old (will turn 28 in September) 6'1" 198lbs 1 career game missed We may have problems on defense but Byron Jones is, as they say, the least of our worries. He posted a 78.1 passer rating against which is just a slight dip from his elite 2018 season. He defended 433 routes and was targeted 69 times for a target rate of 15.9%. Good enough for 3rd in the league 2019: Receptions allowed: 9th Yards allowed: 7th Yards per target: 2nd Yards per reception: 12th Now anyone can agree that those are some impressive stats. The defense wasn't great in 2019 but the numbers suggest it wasn't because of Byron Jones. Where his numbers look average are interceptions and passes defended. He doesn't have hardly any of either. 0 interceptions and 6 breaks ups(41st in the league). But that can somewhat be explained by how rarely he is targeted. Remember he is 3rd in the league in target rate. He doesn't get thrown at. I'm not sure who 1st and 2nd place is but I bet they don't have a whole lot of interceptions either. Having said that, even when he is targeted he doesn't appear as interested in catching it as he does in swatting it away. The other knock would be his age. He'll be closer to 28 to start the season than he will be to 27. He has only ever missed 1 game but it was just last season, and he also has a developing hip issue. At 28, 29, 30, and 31 how will he manage to keep posting elite numbers? Also we have an entirely new staff. Who's to say Byron even fits with our new scheme? Imo he is to good to let go. Sign him to a 5 year deal with an easy out after 3 or 4 years. Even if the defense is switching up he is such an athlete there has to be a place for him. We haven't touched free agency in years because we wanted to build through the draft and save money so we could sign our own. Well... let's do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles suck Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Imo he is to good to let go. Sign him to a 5 year deal with an easy out after 3 or 4 years. Even if the defense is switching up he is such an athlete there has to be a place for him. We haven't touched free agency in years because we wanted to build through the draft and save money so we could sign our own. Well... let's do that. Franchise and trade. Edited February 18, 2020 by eagles suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Byron is as close to a shut down corner we've had since Deion. In today's game where coverage skills are at a premium, it is vital that we resign him. Receivers are a dime a dozen now days, and Amari for all the good he's done has not shown he is worth more then a true shutdown corner. If he was better in away games I would be more hesitant but supposedly we can sign all to good deals. But if we had to let one go, I would just say let Amari walk Byron is too valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas_OutLaw7 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Si. Sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 My only problem is his age. He's gonna want a 5-7 year contract. I dont want to pay him until he's 33-35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SweetFancyMoses said: My only problem is his age. He's gonna want a 5-7 year contract. I dont want to pay him until he's 33-35 A 5 year deal keeps him through 32 years old then he's done Edited February 19, 2020 by DaBoys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, DaBoys said: 27 years old (will turn 28 in September) 6'1" 198lbs 1 career game missed We may have problems on defense but Byron Jones is, as they say, the least of our worries. He posted a 78.1 passer rating against which is just a slight dip from his elite 2018 season. He defended 433 routes and was targeted 69 times for a target rate of 15.9%. Good enough for 3rd in the league 2019: Receptions allowed: 9th Yards allowed: 7th Yards per target: 2nd Yards per reception: 12th Now anyone can agree that those are some impressive stats. The defense wasn't great in 2019 but the numbers suggest it wasn't because of Byron Jones. Where his numbers look average are interceptions and passes defended. He doesn't have hardly any of either. 0 interceptions and 6 breaks ups(41st in the league). But that can somewhat be explained by how rarely he is targeted. Remember he is 3rd in the league in target rate. He doesn't get thrown at. I'm not sure who 1st and 2nd place is but I bet they don't have a whole lot of interceptions either. Having said that, even when he is targeted he doesn't appear as interested in catching it as he does in swatting it away. The other knock would be his age. He'll be closer to 28 to start the season than he will be to 27. He has only ever missed 1 game but it was just last season, and he also has a developing hip issue. At 28, 29, 30, and 31 how will he manage to keep posting elite numbers? Also we have an entirely new staff. Who's to say Byron even fits with our new scheme? Imo he is to good to let go. Sign him to a 5 year deal with an easy out after 3 or 4 years. Even if the defense is switching up he is such an athlete there has to be a place for him. We haven't touched free agency in years because we wanted to build through the draft and save money so we could sign our own. Well... let's do that. Keep Byron and let Amari walk. We had a top offense last year and didnt make playoffs. 2 years ago our defense played great and we went to the divisional round. Who do we have on our roster to replace Byron? At least with Amari, we have Gallup, can re-sign Cobb, look at Dez and draft a rookie receiver in a loaded draft class. All of that said without having to even mention that Amari disappears (a big reason the Raiders let him go) and he is soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 I don't know why it has to be either or... 16 for Byron Jones 17 for Amari That's 33. According to over the cap we have 77.3 in capsace. We get 9 more by cutting Crawford. 86 - 33 = 53..... PUHlenty of room to overpay Dak. Dak could take 35 and we would have 18 left for Quinn and rookies. Maybe a value DT in FA. I don't see the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Sign Jones. He's more valuable than the franchise thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Sign him up. 1 hour ago, CAPJ said: Keep Byron and let Amari walk. If push came to shove this is what I'm doing as well. 1 hour ago, DaBoys said: I don't know why it has to be either or.. Read an article few days ago that Dallas can get up to $120m in cap space if truly needed. Some of the moves necessary to get to that point were pretty questionable, but the possibility still remains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, WizardHawk said: Sign him up. If push came to shove this is what I'm doing as well. Read an article few days ago that Dallas can get up to $120m in cap space if truly needed. Some of the moves necessary to get to that point were pretty questionable, but the possibility still remains Per OverTheCap.com, the Cowboys could restructure DeMarcus Lawrence and save $12 million, Zack Martin and save $8 million, Tyron Smith and save $7 million, or La’el Collins and save $4.5 million. That's 31.5 million to add to the 77.3 they already have. 108.8 plus another $12mil for cutting Crawford and Flemming. So that's 120.8 Dak at 50 Amari, Byron and Quinn at 20 each is 110. I don't see a problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Here's the article. It's actually two.... https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/could-the-cowboys-really-create-120m-of-nfl-cap-space 9 minutes ago, DaBoys said: Per OverTheCap.com, the Cowboys could restructure DeMarcus Lawrence and save $12 million, Zack Martin and save $8 million, Tyron Smith and save $7 million, or La’el Collins and save $4.5 million. That's 31.5 million to add to the 77.3 they already have. 108.8 plus another $12mil for cutting Crawford and Flemming. So that's 120.8 Dak at 50 Amari, Byron and Quinn at 20 each is 110. I don't see a problem I don't see an issue either tbh, but it does go against the grain of what Dallas has been practicing as pointed out in the reading. At some point though, that practice probably falls to the wayside of getting over the hump. At least one would hope that it will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I will say that if La'el was a priority re-sign then Cooper and Jones must be high priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadaluvsdallas Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Nah, byron doesn't fit into our salary cap situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, canadaluvsdallas said: Nah, byron doesn't fit into our salary cap situation. Explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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