2020 NFL Combine Thread

[jrry32]

5 minutes ago, hburn said:

Is there any actual players you can name either way? Like guys who bomber the sparq and greatly improved the combine or bombed both. I’m genuinely curious if anyone has actually tracked the improvements made in the tests

He's talking about high school. First of all, guys develop a lot as they physically mature during college. You don't need to have a growth spurt to get stronger, faster, and more explosive between 17 and 21 years old. Second of all, high school kids don't have access to the training and time that players preparing for NFL athletic testing do. That sort of training, alone, can shave tenths of a second off a 40 and add inches to a vertical jump. This isn't important enough for me to go find you examples. I feel like this is all common sense.

Edited February 27, 2020 by jrry32

[BRANDON26841X]

27 minutes ago, hburn said:

Is there any actual players you can name either way? Like guys who bomber the sparq and greatly improved the combine or bombed both. I’m genuinely curious if anyone has actually tracked the improvements made in the tests

Myles Garrett ran a blazing 5.08 forty pre-Texas A&M. 

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/158532/myles-garrett

Young looked night and day different athletically from his sophomore year to this past season (apparently he had a nagging ankle injury all of 2018). I think he'd run 4.68 or so at worst, but his 10 yard split would be near the top of the board. 

Edited February 27, 2020 by BRANDON26841X

[Gannon12]

I am very interested in seeing what lamb will run in his 40 I know he is a baller. But what would you think would happen say if he ran a sub 4.4

[BayRaider]

4 minutes ago, Gannon12 said:

I am very interested in seeing what lamb will run in his 40 I know he is a baller. But what would you think would happen say if he ran a sub 4.4

Sub 4.4? I’d bet my entire net worth if I was billionaire on Lamb not running a 4.3. I think Lambs best possible time is a 4.48 and even that’s pretty far fetched.

[jetskid007]

Bradlee Anae’s arms “grew” 1/4” since the senior bowl (wingspan 1/8”). Not a big deal on the surface, but considering a lot of teams have minimum thresholds on arm length (32” is a popular minimum) it does help him a little. 

[Gannon12]

5 minutes ago, BayRaider said:

Sub 4.4? I’d bet my entire net worth if I was billionaire on Lamb not running a 4.3. I think Lambs best possible time is a 4.48 and even that’s pretty far fetched.

Lol I was living in the what if world

[BayRaider]

3 minutes ago, Gannon12 said:

Lol I was living in the what if world

But if he did run a 4.3... Top 10 lock.

[LeotheLion]

8 hours ago, Forge said:

oh god, that's just horrible. 

I know. No self respecting southerner uses quick grits!

[Ozzy]

5 hours ago, Chiefer said:

Another surgery for Biadasz

watch him drop to the 5th now

Surgery for what?  Honestly on the field nothing about his play over the past three years said he is not an elite center and hard seeing him not being the best center in this class but maybe physically he is just broken, but I am no doctor.  Hopefully it is not that bad...

 

5 hours ago, Ragnarok said:

Antonio Gandy-Golden with 22 bench reps.

I really like him on Day 2.

Yeah as a jump ball athlete he is about as good as they come in this draft class, great size and great go out and get it receiver.  Kid could be a stud especially in the red zone.  

[Forge]

23 minutes ago, LeotheLion said:

I know. No self respecting southerner uses quick grits!

The two utes...

The two what?

Utes. Oh. Excuse me. Youuuuuuuuuths

[vikes635]

14 hours ago, Fureys49ers said:

Moss is RB 5 for behind Swift, Taylor, Dobbins, CEH. I was reading about Dillon, I guess rumor was that most teams wanted to see him come in closer to 230 than 250 so I’d answer your question with maybe? Personally, don’t have a problem with it with what should be asked from him in the NFL for his role. 

Oh wow I do not have CEH that high, I do have Akers and Benjamin ahead of him though.

[grizmo78]

1 hour ago, Ozzy said:

Surgery for what?  Honestly on the field nothing about his play over the past three years said he is not an elite center and hard seeing him not being the best center in this class but maybe physically he is just broken, but I am no doctor.  Hopefully it is not that bad...

From profootballtalk

"He revealed at the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis on Wednesday that he had arthroscopic surgery on the AC joint in his shoulder after the season.

“It wasn’t necessarily an injury,” Biadasz said, via PackersNews.com. “I never was limited. It was just a lingering issue. Not really an issue, but just a little pain here and there. I went in after the season, just saw a specialist from L.A. and . . . we just don’t want anything lingering on to OTAs or rookie camp. So I just got [it] done.”'

 

I'm with you. I think he's a stud and its shocking how far he is falling in mock drafts. I would love him in the 2nd for my Broncos and think he is a mid 20's 1st rounder as a prospect. His character is top notch as a captain and mentoring a brand new line last year. He is missing a little bit of length and some quickness from your ideal prospect but I view him as a similar prospect to Travis Frederick.  

Edited February 27, 2020 by grizmo78

[HTTRDynasty]

 

[Chiefer]

2 hours ago, Ozzy said:

Surgery for what?  Honestly on the field nothing about his play over the past three years said he is not an elite center and hard seeing him not being the best center in this class but maybe physically he is just broken, but I am no doctor.  Hopefully it is not that bad...

 

Yeah as a jump ball athlete he is about as good as they come in this draft class, great size and great go out and get it receiver.  Kid could be a stud especially in the red zone.  

Shoulder surgery he’s not participating in combine events because of it.

[Shanedorf]

Really interesting article on the scouts who run the combine, a couple snippets below

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/02/26/nfl-combine-group-scout-camp-counselors

" It takes a small army to put on the combine each year. National Football Scouting, the service that produces the combine, relies on about 200 volunteer workers from all 32 teams. Each team is required to offer up a certain number of employees to work in different roles. Scouts volunteer to run different stations like the 40 or the bench press, or conduct the taped interviews with each prospect that are sent out to every team. But the most important job are the group scouts like McCabe, who are tasked with getting each prospect everywhere they need to be in a timely fashion. For five days, the 47 group scouts lead their position group through medical testing, interviews, media, on-field workouts, weigh-ins and more "

There isn’t much turnover among the group scouts from year to year. The spots are valuable for evaluating prospects up close and personal, so teams try to hold on to them as long as possible.

It’s not uncommon for a team to place their group scouts strategically. Clubs have to submit their volunteer worker requests online to National Football Scouting each year, and they can make a note to request a switch to a different position group. This year, an NFC North team requested to switch one of their scouts into a defensive line group, because the team has a need at the position.

Several group scouts said that teams in the quarterback market would all naturally like to have a group scout be in position to get a little more insight into that group. “It happens more than people think,” said one scout who has never been a group scout himself, but annually compares notes with group scout pals."