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5 hours ago, grizmo78 said:

From profootballtalk

"He revealed at the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis on Wednesday that he had arthroscopic surgery on the AC joint in his shoulder after the season.

“It wasn’t necessarily an injury,” Biadasz said, via PackersNews.com. “I never was limited. It was just a lingering issue. Not really an issue, but just a little pain here and there. I went in after the season, just saw a specialist from L.A. and . . . we just don’t want anything lingering on to OTAs or rookie camp. So I just got [it] done.”'

 

I'm with you. I think he's a stud and its shocking how far he is falling in mock drafts. I would love him in the 2nd for my Broncos and think he is a mid 20's 1st rounder as a prospect. His character is top notch as a captain and mentoring a brand new line last year. He is missing a little bit of length and some quickness from your ideal prospect but I view him as a similar prospect to Travis Frederick.  

It would take a serious medical red flag on Tyler Biadasz for me to NOT consider him for the Ravens from our pick at 28 in the first round.

I think we can all put on his tape and see the push he gets up  front, how he holds in pass protection and does a good job picking up stunts and late blitzes and always looking for work.

It is also easy to see, that he sometimes end up on the ground, and while that need to be corrected, it sometimes happens because defenders get pushed back far or that they try to get away from him and around him.

If there is nothing wrong with his body, I have a feeling he could be our starting center/guard for the next 8-10 years. i don't get why people are suddenly so skeptic about him

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Just catching up on the thread, and this quote caught my attention

On 2/26/2020 at 12:24 AM, Ozzy said:

Hopefully the NFL combine does not become like the 2nd tear bowl games in college where a lot of top prospects do not even participate and that becomes the norm.  Being injured is one thing but sometimes I think the injuries can be fabricated.  

 

 

 

These quotes are interesting from David Dellanave who owns Movement Minneapolis in reference to Joe Burrows and general QB hand size.

 

"The pinkie is useless," says David Dellanave, who owns Movement Minneapolis, where he specializes in training and coaching grip strength, a niche branch of weightlifting. "So to that point it's doubly stupid to use this measurement because the pinkie is useless when it comes to gripping something."

 "Size alone doesn't really mean anything when it comes to grip strength," Dellanave says. "I don't think there is any correlation between hand size and hand strength. You would think teams would have a ton of data and insight into this, but then again, I've seen some pretty dumb stuff in professional sports training, so I don't know."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2020/story/_/id/28770715/why-nfl-combine-built-myth-qb-hand-size-measurement-mean-anything

 

 

 

Curious why the NFL would not use such a grip tester to actually measure grip strength which is the point.

 

The bolded is patently false, unless the "something" is specifically a football (in which case I can't verify how important the pinkie is in holding a football).

The pinkie is the 2nd or 3rd most important digit in terms of grip strength, as multiple scientific papers would attest to. This one https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21358861 says that the pinkie contributes 33% of grip strength with gripping a cylinder 

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Hand size is non factor as how players grip the football has changed. In the 90 early 00's it was always coached to grip the 2nd and 5 lace making a player need bigger hands to grip the thicker part of the ball. Brady changed this as he grips the 1 and 3. They grip more of the back of the ball which has a small area and gives them the ability to get a tighter grip on the ball while having small hands.

 

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10 hours ago, jrry32 said:

He's talking about high school. First of all, guys develop a lot as they physically mature during college. You don't need to have a growth spurt to get stronger, faster, and more explosive between 17 and 21 years old. Second of all, high school kids don't have access to the training and time that players preparing for NFL athletic testing do. That sort of training, alone, can shave tenths of a second off a 40 and add inches to a vertical jump. This isn't important enough for me to go find you examples. I feel like this is all common sense


So that’s a no

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2 hours ago, drd23 said:

Just catching up on the thread, and this quote caught my attention

The bolded is patently false, unless the "something" is specifically a football (in which case I can't verify how important the pinkie is in holding a football).

The pinkie is the 2nd or 3rd most important digit in terms of grip strength, as multiple scientific papers would attest to. This one https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21358861 says that the pinkie contributes 33% of grip strength with gripping a cylinder 

I was just quoting someone else, but I agree pinkie is not worthless, without it things would be quite difficult overall.  And yeah gripping a football the pinkie does participate no question and without it you could not do it especially depending on how you hold the football,.  

 

I assume the guy was referencing this, and gripping this the pinkie is not super important.  

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There is something to him saying that there is no correlation to hand size being directed related to gripping strength at all.  Bigger does not mean stronger.

 

 

 

PS that study was done on 50 people (25 male and 25 female) which is a joke of a sample size and not representative of anything if the case.

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8 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

 

I love that the NFL is changing up the processes on them, and i'd be leery of anyone who pushes back or drops out because of it. Gaming the system to appear a better athlete than you actually are is tantamount to fraud with the amount of money these guys are about to make.

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1 hour ago, THE DUKE said:

I love that the NFL is changing up the processes on them, and i'd be leery of anyone who pushes back or drops out because of it. Gaming the system to appear a better athlete than you actually are is tantamount to fraud with the amount of money these guys are about to make.

Duke, c'mon.

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