BayRaider Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 2020 Prospect Rankings Generational Prospects: QB Joe Burrow - LSU QB Tua Tagovailoa - Alabama EDGE Chase Young - Ohio State Blue Chip Prospects: CB Jeff Okudah - Ohio State EDGE Yetur Gross-Matos - Penn State DT Derrick Brown - Auburn LB Isaiah Simmons - Clemson DT Javon Kinlaw - South Carolina OT Andrew Thomas - Georgia WR Jerry Jeudy – Alabama OT Jedrick Willis – Alabama Upper Tier Prospects: OT Mekhi Becton - Louisville WR Henry Ruggs III - Alabama QB Jordan Love - Utah State WR Brandon Aiyuk - Arizona State OT/G Tristan Wirfs - Iowa EDGE A.J. Epeneza – Iowa Upper Tier Prospects w/ slight risk (minimal): S Grant Delpit – LSU DT Ross Blacklock – TCU 1st Round Grade Prospects: (ends at 32 ironically) CB CJ Henderson - Florida WR Tee Higgins – Clemson EDGE Julian Okwara - Notre Dame LB Patrick Queen - LSU RB D'Andre Swift – Georgia WR CeeDee Lamb – Oklahoma EDGE K’Lavon Chaisson - LSU S Xaiver McKinney - Alabama RB Jonathan Taylor - Wisconsin QB Jake Fromm - Georgia LB Kenneth Murray – Oklahoma CB Kristian Fulton – LSU WR KJ Hamler – Penn State The Rest: RB J.K. Dobbins – Ohio State CB Trevon Diggs - Alabama CB Damon Arnette – Ohio State S Ashtyn Davis – Cal OT Austin Jackson - USC CB Jeff Gladney – TCU DT Neville Gallimore – Oklahoma WR Justin Jefferson – LSU QB Jacob Eason – Washington C Tyler Biadadz – Wisconsin CB Bryce Hall – Virginia OT Josh Jones – Houston WR Laviska Shenault – Colorado TE Cole Kmet – Notre Dame LB Zack Baun – Wisconsin QB Justin Herbert – Oregon CB Jaylon Johnson – Utah EDGE Terrell Lewis - Alabama Details: - Please read all details before rushing to comment. I would really appreciate any disagreements to be in a kind manner, although constructive criticism is more than welcome. - These are solely my opinion and my rankings have no more value than yours. Especially if you took as much time as I did watching so much of their tape. I probably spent 30+ hours in total on this, not including all the live tape during the season. - What did I use? Combination of Full Games and "Player vs Team" on Youtube which shows every snap against that team. I do miss draftbreakdown which had every snap of every player but they unfortunately shut down last year, cause the NCAA sucks. - Personally, I absolutely love the Top 19 Prospects in my rankings. Which is why I bracketed it that way. - Writing 50 Evaluations would take weeks, I really don't have that type of time, so I'll go into detail as much as I can below. - You will see a lot of Raider Lingo. I copied this from over there where I originally posted it. Explanations: - I do think Burrow, Tua, and Chase are the three generational prospects in this draft, and yes I do have Burrow and Tua ahead of Chase. IMO Burrow and Tua are neck and neck. Tuas hip bothers me but absolutely not as much as most people. And if Tua didn't get injured and played all year? We'd be having Burrow/Tua debates. It's 1a and 1b for me. I think both will be Top 10 QBs in the NFL. Burrow may take more time to gel, especially if he goes to the Bengals. That OL is dreadful.. and it's the Bengals.. but I think Tua will succeed right away just about anywhere he goes. He has the mobility, intelligence, and all the tools to survive a bad situation if he goes into one. Chase I see a generational talent who should dominate in the NFL. I tried to get picky with his tape, but he's surprisingly pretty flawless. However, I do have him behind Myles Garrett and Nick Bosa from previous seasons. Even though quite a few will disagree with that, which is fine. - Gross-Matos at 5...? What? Well, 1. I don't get influenced by other rankings, and 2. We are all usually gonna have that one guy we are just higher on than anyone else. I see Matos usually at 15-25 and DJ didn't have him ranked at all (although probably hasn't scouted him yet). Gross-Matos reminds me of a Aldon Smith clone. He's twitchy, his hands are extremely quick and very violent, his hip movement is fantastic, he's an excellent run defender, and he's an athletic freak. Great speed and solid power. Once he learns how to use his athleticism and power more, he could be really dominant in the NFL. I didn't even know about his story until after I ranked him. This ranking is purely on play. But I guess his his father/brother passed away and he has a terrific character. - I've cooled on Queen a little but he's still my favorite LB in the draft. He'd be a fantastic LB in Nickel Formations. He's got solid coverage and takes good angles against the run. I would prefer if he put on a little weight as a true mike in a 4-3 Base, but he's a solid prospect. PFF is dead wrong on this guy (think he's their LB6). WR's: - I think Jeudy is a blue chip prospect. Route running, especially the way he bursts off the top of a route, is the best in this class by far. He has solid speed, probably around a 4.43ish 40 time. He's aggressive catching the football and also has Amaris YAC ability and overall elusiveness. He's a stud. Comp: 75% Chad Johnson 25% Amari Cooper. - Ruggs is obviously the fastest WR and has good height. He's a solid well rounded receiver as well. Can run solid routes and aggressive at getting the football. Comp: Tyreek Hill. - I love Brandon Aiyuk. He's personally neck and neck for me with Ruggs. I think Aiyuk will run between a 4.37 to 4.43 at the combine, he is explosively fast and another well rounded WR that is being extremely slept on. I expect him to climb, climb climb. He's a solid route runner, solid at pinpointing the ball, solid hands, solid on all three levels of the field and a dynamic weapon, and his ability to change direction so fluidly is outstanding. He is a fantastic deep threat but his best route by far is the skinny post. Think of a 8-12 yard type of post basically. And what he does with that route after catching is he can keep going right, go forward, or completely go in the opposition direction with absolutely no effort or delay. He isn't the most physical guy in the world which is a concern but I have hopes this will improve at the next level. No comp. - Tee Higgins has grown on me a lot and I do think he has the potential to be a Low Tier WR1. He should be at least a Upper Tier WR2. He's pretty well rounded, jump ball master, great at using his hands, should run around a 4.51ish, and would be a fantastic redzone threat, something the Raiders are desperately lacking. Higgins at the end of the endzone would be absolutely deadly. I'd have no issue with him at 19 what so ever. No comp. - A lot of people think I don't like Lamb but that's not true. I really like Lamb actually. It's just an i-n-s-a-n-e WR class and he happens to be my WR5. Lamb may be the most overall well rounded, or perhaps 1b to Jeudy in that regard. Terrific route runner, extremely physical, the most physical WR in the draft, will defeat press coverage, should be dominant on 3rd downs. My only worry about Lamb is his speed which could cause separation issues and overall long speed issues. I predicted a 4.55 - 4.58 40 and more of the latter, but if he runs a 4.52 - 4.53 he may shoot up for me. At least ahead of Higgins. Comp: 65% Stefon Diggs 35% Davante Adams. - KJ Hamler is a very explosive slot WR and can also play outside. Well rounded (I know.. this class is full of "well rounded" WRs) and doesn't really have many flaws in his game overall, he is very refined. Obviously he is small at 5'9" and will be limited on what he can do in the NFL. However, to me, he is Desean Jackson. Literally plays exactly like him. Should run between a 4.31 and 4.36. He's pretty dang fast. Jordan Love: - You guys know I like Jordan Love quite a bit. Pocket Presence: A Mobility: B Escape: B- Play Extension: B+ Processing Speed: C+ Understanding of Defenses: C (This is how majority of his INTs happen, also understanding of defenses is the most correctable thing at the next level). Arm: A Under Pressure: B+ Toughness: A Release: A- Mechanics: B+ Short/Medium Accuracy: B+ Deep Accuracy: B- He also has something that I haven't seen from any other QB ever except Mahomes. Throwing from weird angles and completely contorted and firing off accurate lasers. Not that I think he will be anything close to Mahomes as a QB. I dont. Jake Fromm: Someone I'm high on more than most. Don't get me wrong, I think Fromm probably is a 20-22ish ranked QB in the league on most NFL Teams. However, like almost QBs, it all depends what system and offense they play in. Jake Fromm was born to play in a timing scheme like the Saints, Patriots, or a WCO like the.....Raiders! I think on these three football teams, Fromm could be a Top 10-12 QB. He will probably not make it past the Saints in the 2nd Round. Fromms arm being weak is blown out of proportion. Dalton, Burrow, and Fromm all have similar arms in my honest opinion. Are you gonna have a vertical offense with Fromm? God no, that'd be suicide. But in the offenses I mentioned, he's an ideal fit. Fromm is almost on par with Burrow with Football IQ, but the edge goes to Burrow on that one. Fromm has the best pocket presence in this class. Literally A+ Pocket Presence. And he's a tremendous leader with tons of charisma. Players will love this guy. He's also very accurate, as long he's not throwing into a tight window. Justin Herbert: I see Herbert as a slightly lesser version of Josh Allen. He's mobile, laser arm, and can look fairly good when he's "on". But there are way way too many red flags for me. Major accuracy issues, questionable mechanics, average pocket presence and will require a Top 5 OL, and is bad under pressure. These last two flaws were masked by Oregon having one of the best Offensive Lines in the history of the NCAA. And a lesser concern, but still a concern, many question Herberts passion and to a lesser extent, his leadership. In interviews, doesn't seem like he overly cares about football, and he is also clearly an introvert and has zero charisma. Not that there's anything wrong with being an introvert, but you do have to lead an offense. What's up with Delpit and Blacklock? I think they are terrific prospects and I love both of them. Both just have some minor risk involved. Delpit's tackling has been notoriously bad... which is a problem. But everything else in Delpits game is literally Grade A. He's fantastic. And his tackling problems evaporated in the CFB playoffs. Blacklock has grown on me over the past week. He is an elite run defender as soon as he steps on the field imo, his ability to get off that block is pretty dang good. Almost instant at times. As for a pass rusher, he's your prototypical 3T in a 4-3. He is nothing else but a 3T in a 4-3. That's Blacklock. But I have no issues with that, because he is a fantastic 3T. He has an array of moves, one of the most twitchy 3T's I've ever seen, and usually knocks back his opponent instantly with power alas Chris Jones. He gets eliminated with double teams unlike the Donalds/Jones of the world, but on a great DL, Blacklock can be a Pro Bowler and absolute stud. The Strange Case of Fulton: So Fulton is ranked 31 but it kind of averages out a bit because I think as a pure nickel corner, he can be an absolute stud, and a Top 15 type prospect when we look back at the draft in a few years. He's ridiculously similar to A.J. Bouye who was a dominant nickel corner and progressed into a dominant outside corner. Fulton on the inside is extremely dominant... he'll be a fantastic nickel CB right away and he does indeed have the tools and potential to be a solid outside CB as well. Although, at the moment, if you put him on the outside I don't even think he's a Top 7 CB in this class. He gets beat consistently. High on Okwara: As a 3-4 Edge Rusher, I absolutely love Okwara. I think he'll be a dominant 3-4 Edge guy in the NFL. He possesses all the tools and skills to play that position. Pats would be an excellent fit. Cornerbacks are scheme dependent creatures: Everything from Henderson to Jaylon Johnson is all, what kind of CB fits your defense? CJ Henderson is pretty dang good in coverage, the best of the bunch besides Okudah. He excels in man coverage and off coverage. He's ok in press but needs to add more strength. He's also good in zone. Not a physical run defender. Henderson can probably fit most schemes.. Want a physical press/man corner who is a solid run defender? Arnette and Gladney are your guys. And Gladney is extremely fast. Although my issue with Gladney is he gets extremely grabby down field, almost all the dang time. Penalties incoming. Other than that, Gladney is solid. Want a guy who can do man on huge WRs and TEs and blanket them, and also is extremely good in zone coverage? Trevon Diggs is your man. Very good at both. He'd be terrific in a zone scheme and a zone team will probably draft him. Although he's gonna get burnt by the faster guys when in man coverage. I personally wouldn't draft him when we play KC 2x a year. Ideal Mocks for Raiders: In order from favorite to least favorite: 1. 12. DT Javon Kinlaw 19. WR Brandon Aiyuk (would take Ruggs if available) 2. 12. LB Isaiah Simmons 19. DT Ross Blacklock 3. 12. WR Jerry Jeudy 19. LB Patrick Queen 4. 12. QB Jordan Love 19. WR Brandon Aiyuk 5. 12. WR Henry Ruggs III 19. LB Patrick Queen I would have zero issues with Jordan Love at 12. We will have to see how the QB situation unravels. It's just hard to imagine drafting Love at 12 if we have Brady or even Carr. With Brady, we are going all in 2020 for a Super Bowl. No question. All chips in. So we will probably wait until the next draft for a QB. If we choose Carr, we will probably give him a WR and draft defense. Then maybe try to get Fromm or Eason in the 2nd is my prediction. Thanks for reading. Edited February 28, 2020 by BayRaider 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Fixed Kinlaws college from Auburn to SC. Just a mental typo due to The Top DT Brown being at Auburn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Misread Edited February 21, 2020 by HoboRocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: I have a question. Do you seriously think Ruggs makes it to the 5th? Also, are you picturing Kinlaw as a 1T for the Raiders? Say what? Ruggs is my 13th overall prospect. In any mock, he won’t get past the Raiders at 19, unless we take a WR at 12, then he won’t get past the early 20’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BayRaider said: Say what? Ruggs is my 13th overall prospect. In any mock, he won’t get past the Raiders at 19, unless we take a WR at 12, then he won’t get past the early 20’s. Oh, nevermind. I was misreading your mock. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I respect the depth you went into with your opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 JT O Sullivan aka QB School “liked” my writeups on Fromm, Love, and Herbert and that he agrees with a majority of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 21 hours ago, BayRaider said: JT O Sullivan aka QB School “liked” my writeups on Fromm, Love, and Herbert and that he agrees with a majority of it. Is that on Twitter or YouTube or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Classic said: Is that on Twitter or YouTube or something? Justin Herberts Scouting Video on Youtube. Had a mini convo after as well. A account registered that day also replied to me “waste of time” and I said “Thanks Justin” and seemed like he had a decent laugh over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 What are the things you don't like about Jalen Raegar? He's my number 3 WR behind Jeudy and Lamb, and personally think he goes top 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTimes Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 As far as WR I think Hamler's height (or lack thereof) may push him into the slot full time. Not sure he'd be able to get consistent release outside, but I agree with you he's a dynamic prospect. I also like Reagor better than most. I think he suffered from poor QB play and could be a great draft choice. I'm also higher on Shenault than most; as an Eagles fan I don't want him anywhere near DAL or New Orleans; his potential is scary good if used properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rainmaker90 said: What are the things you don't like about Jalen Raegar? He's my number 3 WR behind Jeudy and Lamb, and personally think he goes top 16. I think Jalen is as stiff as a rock and will be mostly special teams in the NFL. Not a huge fan. I think he’ll be an awesome return man though. Edited February 25, 2020 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Not exactly sure what people see in Reagor and Shenault over Aiyuk... they do not even come close to Aiyuk as prospects IMO. I do like Shenault though. But I have a 2nd Round grade on him. I posted this about Aiyuk yesterday. 18 hours ago, BayRaider said: Brandon Aiyuk is DJ’s 19th Ranked Prospect and McShay’s 18th Ranked Prospect. Yet you still barely see anyone talking about him among fans and Main Stream Media. I have him as my 15th and “Upper Tier”. Blazing fast, best fluidity changing direction of any prospect in the draft by far, fantastic on all three levels of the field, can take a slant or skinny post to the house better than anyone in this class, solid route runner, best at double moves in the entire class, and good hands. Just needs a ton of work defeating press. I think Jerry Jeudy is far and away the best WR Prospect in this class though. He is my favorite WR Prospect (keyword: prospect, don’t look at hindsight) since AJ Green and Julio Jones in 2011. I was super high on both those guys, especially Green. Edited February 25, 2020 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 4:35 AM, BayRaider said: - A lot of people think I don't like Lamb but that's not true. I really like Lamb actually. It's just an i-n-s-a-n-e WR class and he happens to be my WR5. Lamb may be the most overall well rounded, or perhaps 1b to Jeudy in that regard. Terrific route runner, extremely physical, the most physical WR in the draft, will defeat press coverage, should be dominant on 3rd downs. My only worry about Lamb is his speed which could cause separation issues and overall long speed issues. I predicted a 4.55 - 4.58 40 and more of the latter, but if he runs a 4.52 - 4.53 he may shoot up for me. At least ahead of Higgins. Comp: 65% Stefon Diggs 35% Davante Adams. So...you're only knock on him is speed? Seems illogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, CWood21 said: So...you're only knock on him is speed? Seems illogical. It’s a huge knock though. His game tape speed is really slow. Really slow. I anticipate separation issues. I expect a 4.55 - 4.57 type of 40 yard dash from him. And while there has been receivers successful with these type of times, the only one comparable to Lamb that has been successful is Hopkins. Plus Hopkins game tape speed is faster. And I do not view Lamb as being anywhere close to Hopkins. I think Lamb will be a solid physical WR2 in the NFL and have a 1st Round Grade on him. Like I said, there are other WRs with bad 40’s like Michael Thomas and Allen Robinson but these guys are built like the Hulk with a solid overall game. Lamb is a smaller WR. Edited February 26, 2020 by BayRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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