Kiwibrown Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 This gets thrown around a lot. What does it mean? It seems like the pats seldom have a true no. 1 wr, but they do ok. Same with Sesttle. While some teams excellent talent and dont do that much in terms of wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A number one receiver is the team's best and most reliable receiving option. A true number one is one of the leagues best and most reliable receiving option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. I actually agree with this, despite my team having Julio. And I love Julio, I wouldn't trade him unless the offer was insane. But I think having a deep WR group is more important than having an elite WR. Having a weak #3 is something that can be exploited (double #1, double #2, play press on #3 and hope the pass rush gets home before #3 beats the press, etc.). This is why I value the Aldrick Robinsons, Taylor Gabriels, Marvin Halls of the world a lot, even though they're just #3 and they physically can't play outside they present matchup issues vs. press coverage (if you don't hit on your jam, you've basically given up a 20+ yard completion if the opposing QB has an arm). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. Out of every WR ever, you thought of Amari Cooper first. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 46 minutes ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. I agree, id like 5 guys that can do 1-2 things well, rather than 1 guy who can do everything very well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. Fully agree. Give me 2 true #2’s all day. A #1 and #2 is extremely rare and usually a waste of resources. There is also maybe 12 #1’s at most any given year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A true #1 WR can be double teamed and still make plays/be effective/put up a stat line more often than not. That's my definition. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A #1 WR can be triple covered and still come up with the game winning TD/make plays when you need them to. Megatron/Andre Johnson/ Stevie Johnson etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, SwoleXmad said: A #1 WR can be triple covered and still come up with the game winning TD/make plays when you need them to. Megatron/Andre Johnson/ Stevie Johnson etc. Um...what? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Um...what? Sometimes you have to see if the masses are paying attention....at least I hope that is what is going on here. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. It depends on the WRs behind the elite WR. Id rather have a collection of 2s than one elite WR and several bums....but an elite WR with a solid number 2 and 3 is better than several number 2s. An elite WR can make the WRs around him better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) It depends on the QB and really the offensive system. The Niners don’t have a true number one receiver. They do have an elite tight end in Kittle and a great offensive playcaller in Shanny who can scheme open guys to make them look better than what they really are. The Patriots don’t have a true number one but they have an all-time great QB in Brady and another brilliant offensive playcaller in McDaniels. We know when the Pats did have a true number one receiver that was Moss they were literally unstoppable aside from the Superbowl against the Giants and that team saw them twice and had an elite defensive line with a great defensive playcaller in Spags. So for me I’d take a true number one receiver any day because if you just need a guy to make a play or just take over a game when nothing else is working then two number two’s won’t do it. Give me Julio, Megatron, Holt, a prime Fitzgerald because they will raise the level of play from the QB position if you don’t have a Brady or Peyton. If you are playing Keenum at QB you can’t have two number twos and expect to be highly successful. His time in Denver was a perfect example. Sanders at this stage is a number two and Sutton at this stage is a number two at best. Keenum wasn’t even close to successful with that like he was in Minnesota when he had a true number one in Diggs and even Thielen. True number one receivers will also make life easier for the other skill position players and if the offensive playcaller isn’t great that elite receiver will bail out that playcaller from calling a bad play or just having a bad game plan in general. Edited February 25, 2020 by stl4life07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 elite WR draws double/triple coverage = off-the-street TE without stone hands averages 12 yards a play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Ragnarok said: Um...what? That should be Keshawn Johnson and or Chad Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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