Ragnarok Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ryan_W said: elite WR draws double/triple coverage = off-the-street TE without stone hands averages 12 yards a play Kyle Rudolph is better than an off-the-street TE, doesn't have stone hands, and averages 9.8 yards a play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 To me this term doesnt describe just a singular type of player. It could be defined as a guy that requires double and triple coverage allowing other options to be open. It could also be described in a similar light as a guy who finds a way to get open and make high plays despite the coverage he sees. Elite WRs are typically #1 WRs. I agree with those that have suggested that having a bunch of #2s can sometimes be better than having a #1 WR but as others have said in think that is even more dependent on quality QB play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Elky said: Controversial opinion: it's better to have a collection of #2's than a Amari Cooper/Julio Jones/Megatron type #1. The Packers have a very large collection of WRs that are all huge number 2s. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Forge said: Sometimes you have to see if the masses are paying attention....at least I hope that is what is going on here. Brilliant move now that the offseason is here actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsurebro Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 This prompted me to look up most total yards in 2019. So, here goes... Top 10 in receiving yards in 2019 (+TDs): 1. Michael Thomas: 1725 yards, 9TD 2. Julio Jones: 1394 yards, 6TD 3. Chris Godwin: 1333 yards, 9TD 4. Travis Kelce: 1229 yards (suck that, Kittle), 5TD 5. DeVante Parker: 1202 yards, 9TD 6. Keenan Allen: 1199 yards, 6TD 7. Kenny Golladay: 1190 yards, 11TD 8. Amari Cooper: 1189 yards, 8TD 9. D.J. Moore: 1175 yards, 4TD 10. Jarvis Landry: 1174 yards, 6TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Hukos said: I actually agree with this, despite my team having Julio. And I love Julio, I wouldn't trade him unless the offer was insane. But I think having a deep WR group is more important than having an elite WR. Having a weak #3 is something that can be exploited (double #1, double #2, play press on #3 and hope the pass rush gets home before #3 beats the press, etc.). This is why I value the Aldrick Robinsons, Taylor Gabriels, Marvin Halls of the world a lot, even though they're just #3 and they physically can't play outside they present matchup issues vs. press coverage (if you don't hit on your jam, you've basically given up a 20+ yard completion if the opposing QB has an arm). If you would’ve given us Julio we would’ve sent Taylor Gabriel your way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 To me it's the guy that the QB likes to throw to the most and the guy that is the most reliable option for the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Need top end production, Need to be able to run good portion of, if not the entire, route tree. Need to be able to consistently win on the outside. You really cannot take away a Julio Jones, Thomas, Hopkins when they’re lining up at SE unless you have a top notch CB. Even w/ all the safety help in the world, those guys can still abuse lesser corners. Those 3 + OBJ (if he returns to form/assume 2019 was fluke), Adams, Cooper, Evans, Hill and maybe a few other guys slipping my mind, those are who I’d considered current “#1” WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A top Top 10 WR in the league and with Elite cut off being around the 8th best WR. A WR that can make avg QB better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Rams have had 3 #2 WRs for a few years now. Although I think Kupp is emerging as a #1 Would you rather have the Falcons WR group or the Rams? That's essentially the question that is being asked as far as top end talent versus depth is concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsurebro Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The most vague answer would be the #1 receiver on a team. With that said... Baseline stats to jumpstart putting a number on this, per season: -Go for at least 1,000+ yards -Minimum of 65 receptions -Receive 100+ targets -Minimum 5 TD's Feel free to adjust, add to, or otherwise chime in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A true #1 is someone who will be a focal point of the game plan each week for the opposing defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 A receiver that can routinely defeat the opposing team’s #1 CB in 1-1 situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Ragnarok said: A true #1 WR can be double teamed and still make plays/be effective/put up a stat line more often than not. That's my definition. Very subjective and almost unrealistic. There's exceptions like Julio Jones or Randy Moss, but the majority of #1 wideouts who are double teamed don't get near the touches of the opposite side or the slot for the very reason that they're running in double coverage. But, just because they still can't make plays in double coverage doesn't mean that they're not the #1 receiving option on their team by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fray32 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Forge said: Sometimes you have to see if the masses are paying attention....at least I hope that is what is going on here. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SplendidSpottedBeardedcollie-mobile.mp4 Look me in the eye and tell me Ryan Fitzpatrick-to-Stevie Johnson doesn't get the blood going. You can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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