LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Trent Williams is out of his mind imo. I could see him getting close to 20 on a one year deal perhaps, but no team is locking him in long term at that number. At least I hope it ain’t us anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoffma1999 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 4:24 PM, brownie man said: Why not? Giants just went LB Lions went LB Jags went LB Cardinals chargers and panthers need Oline it’s definitely possible I suppose, I could just see one those teams finding his talent too much to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Trent Williams is out of his mind imo. I could see him getting close to 20 on a one year deal perhaps, but no team is locking him in long term at that number. At least I hope it ain’t us anyway... I'd give him a short termed, heavily incentive laden contract where he has to achieve 90-95% of snaps throughout the season, incentives for Pro Bowl and All-Pro. I would put that carrot out in front of him and if he achieves it he gets paid and we get one of the best LTs in the NFL. Win, win... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfhunt Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 16 hours ago, bruceb said: Paul Brown started with and built from the C out. I never let the poster forget that he posted it. The ol is where you start and it was fun to watch him disagree with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#32 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Me thinks Trent will eventually be a Brown for 3rd rd from Houston! It's the Harvard move to make when and if Trent agrees to deal with bonus incentives but NO new contract until next year or yearafter Browns draft Wirfs for RG or Simmons LB with 1st, Hamilton DT OSU (he is a future sackmaster) with 2nd, and Tyler G/C or best S available with 3rd, roll the dice with the rest of picks with speed LB or WR or DE O line would go from worst to top 5 with Conklin, Williams, and top graded rookie added to Tretter, and Bitonio , all pro caliber with new all pro coach Callahan who will also have TE's and WR's learn to block on the line. Chubbs would have a chub and Hunt would be the hunter. Play action would be unprecedented. Defense would add two impact players and the middle would be tight with most impressive pass rush, Vernon in shape is solid but I see Harvard letting go if he can find a solution that makes $ense Special teams would benefit with upgrades and new KR/PR from Akron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 19 hours ago, #32 said: Me thinks Trent will eventually be a Brown for 3rd rd from Houston! It's the Harvard move to make when and if Trent agrees to deal with bonus incentives but NO new contract until next year or yearafter The Harvard move is to give up zero in valuable draft assets to take on a 32 year old LT who hasn't played a snap since 2018 or a full season since 2013. If he gets cut and we can talk a rental/rebuild your value type deal, then for sure. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Vonn Bell’s deal in Cinci was 3/$18M. I’d have given him that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, NateDawg said: Vonn Bell’s deal in Cinci was 3/$18M. I’d have given him that. Yeah that is a great deal for cinci. He might have come here for a little less too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Browns have the most salary cap space in the NFL. That’s blows my mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/NFL_Stats/status/1242184715601412103 Edited March 25, 2020 by candyman93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: Yeah that is a great deal for cinci. He might have come here for a little less too. with the signing of Joseph and Sendejo though it would make no sense to bring him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: with the signing of Joseph and Sendejo though it would make no sense to bring him in Yeah, before theybsigned though? Joesph and Bell wouldnlook nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 13 hours ago, candyman93 said: Browns have the most salary cap space in the NFL. That’s blows my mind. https://mobile.twitter.com/NFL_Stats/status/1242184715601412103 Thank you DePo! Have we released Hubbard yet? I imagine we will keep Vernon this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Thank you DePo! Have we released Hubbard yet? I’m guessing they wait until after the draft, if it happens at all. 6 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I imagine we will keep Vernon this year. Yeah did imagine. If we focus on resigning our own guys next year and he walks, he could get us a comp pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I’m guessing they wait until after the draft, if it happens at all. I wasn't sure how that all would factor in with roster bonuses, deadlines, etc. Conklin is definitely a RT, so moving Hubbard to LT (I laughed too) doesn't make sense for many reasons. If we were to draft an OT/acquire another one like Williams (after he's cut or for a Day 3 pick) then it may make sense to cut him. In my ideal situation, I acquire Williams for a 5th and still draft an OT as an insurance policy and youth movement going forward. What are the odds Williams and Conklin both stay healthy all of 2020 anyway? 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah did imagine. If we focus on resigning our own guys next year and he walks, he could get us a comp pick. And our DL depth is awful. We have to roll the dice a little, hope he's healthy and can be a solid starter opposite Myles this year, and roll with him. We can't cut too many guys and create major voids that can't be filled, especially when we are #1 in the league in cap space. We can afford him this year, have him as a plug and play starter, get a comp pick, and draft a DE in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 20 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I wasn't sure how that all would factor in with roster bonuses, deadlines, etc. Conklin is definitely a RT, so moving Hubbard to LT (I laughed too) doesn't make sense for many reasons. If we were to draft an OT/acquire another one like Williams (after he's cut or for a Day 3 pick) then it may make sense to cut him. In my ideal situation, I acquire Williams for a 5th and still draft an OT as an insurance policy and youth movement going forward. What are the odds Williams and Conklin both stay healthy all of 2020 anyway? As far as Hubbard, the only thing I can think is they want to land their replacement before cutting him. If Williams doesn’t work out, the draft goes wonky, etc. Id be surprised if he’s here week 1. 20 minutes ago, MWil23 said: And our DL depth is awful. We have to roll the dice a little, hope he's healthy and can be a solid starter opposite Myles this year, and roll with him. We can't cut too many guys and create major voids that can't be filled, especially when we are #1 in the league in cap space. We can afford him this year, have him as a plug and play starter, get a comp pick, and draft a DE in 2021. Yep, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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