mtmmike Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 How about Kirkpatrick check him out I think he could still cover 90 percent of the tight ends and big wr? i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Browns signing DE Adrian Clayborn to a 2 year 6million dollar deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Browns signing DE Adrian Clayborn to a 2 year 6million dollar deal Solid inside/outside depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, mtmmike said: How about Kirkpatrick check him out I think he could still cover 90 percent of the tight ends and big wr? i Nah I don’t like signing a 30+ year old CB that the Bengals deemed not good enough to keep. i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, BleedTheClock said: Solid inside/outside depth. Yeah good depth but not someone you want starting day one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, hornbybrown said: Yeah good depth but not someone you want starting day one I can’t imagine he will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 I like adding vets to our lockeroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: Browns signing DE Adrian Clayborn to a 2 year 6million dollar deal very good signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, buno67 said: very good signing Cant hurt solid depth/rotational guy. Still wondering what the heck we are doing with Vernon. With the nerds in charge I cant imagine they look at that cap hit with 0 dead money and think that is a good investment for his production since he left MIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Cant hurt solid depth/rotational guy. Still wondering what the heck we are doing with Vernon. With the nerds in charge I cant imagine they look at that cap hit with 0 dead money and think that is a good investment for his production since he left MIA. Vernon didnt have that bad of a year last year. Everyone wants to judge him on his boxscore but his play helped Garrett. His play, allowed the team to switch them back and forth between both DE positions. Garrett produced a lot playing against RTs. Heck his '15 season (last one with Mia) he was a 82.5pff. in '18 he was an 86.3 and last year he was 80.4. Why cut him when you dont have anyone truly better to replace him with. Browns arent hurting for cap space right now either Edited March 31, 2020 by buno67 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, buno67 said: Vernon didnt have that bad of a year last year. Everyone wants to judge him on his boxscore but his play helped Garrett. His play, allowed the team to switch them back and forth between both DE positions. Heck his '15 season (last one with Mia) he was a 82.5pff. in '18 he was an 86.3 and last year he was 80.4. Not saying he wasnt solid, just for 17 million per season you expect near elite level of production and more game changing plays--not just solid production. Vernon is getting paid more than JJ Watt, Melvin Ingram and Chris Jones but IMO doesnt offer the weekly impact plays that those other guys in his tax bracket make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Like the Clayborn signing: -Can we can have a professional player who can be productive whole on the field -Can help keep these guys (Garrett, Vernon) on a pitch count to keep them fresh, especially moving forward to a 17 game schedule + playoffs - Anything north of 5.5 sacks out of him will be a win IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Not saying he wasnt solid, just for 17 million per season you expect near elite level of production and more game changing plays--not just solid production. Vernon is getting paid more than JJ Watt, Melvin Ingram and Chris Jones but IMO doesnt offer the weekly impact plays that those other guys in his tax bracket make. https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status/1232298578149826562?s=20 Let's put something to bed after being told over & over again how Olivier Vernon wasn't productive last season. Pass-rush productivity (percentage of snaps, 200 or more, with pressure generated): 1. Garrett - 15.1% 2. Vernon - 13.2% For comparison, following edge-rushers fit into same range as Vernon in pass-rush productivity: Khalil Mack: 13.2% Dante Fowler: 13.2% Brandon Graham: 13.1% Arik Armstead: 12.5% Chandler Jones: 12.2% Everson Griffen: 12.1% Top FAs Ngakoue & Clowney fell below those numbers. You mention Ingram, PFF graded Vernon higher than him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I thought one of the nerds philosophies was not to pay for depth. Good signing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I thought one of the nerds philosophies was not to pay for depth. Good signing though. $3M/yr is damn near vet minimum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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