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Why haven't more coaches tried to mimic Belichick's coaching philosophy?


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1 hour ago, Starless said:

Because they're not given opportunities to construct their organization from the ground up.

You don't call McDaniels being handed full authority in Denver as having an opportunity?  Just because he drove it into the ground doesn't mean he didn't have the opportunity.

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Just now, beezee said:

You don't call McDaniels being handed full authority in Denver as having an opportunity?  Just because he drove it into the ground doesn't mean he didn't have the opportunity.

McDaniels screwed it up for sure. But he was also, what, 33 years old when he got that job? He'd never been a HC before.

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16 minutes ago, Starless said:

McDaniels screwed it up for sure. But he was also, what, 33 years old when he got that job? He'd never been a HC before.

Oh, so now it's not "they never had an opportunity", it's "they never had 2 opportunities"?

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It's kind of funny, I play chess and have followed the world champion's careers and from that I learned the difference between a world champion and other grand masters as the best are called.

Every game that grand masters and world champion play can be found in books showing each move, so you would think that after so many years of playing the sport of chess, everybody would know how to beat every move and believe me, every chess player studies past games, putting in hours of study time. Yet world champions still standout and are able to beat everybody of their generation, so what separates them from the pack???

Here goes, the world champions will look at every move of a published game and in many cases, come up with a slight change that turns the game into their favour, that nobody else could find. It's their creativity that makes them shine above the rest. and from my observations over around 65 years of following pro football, that's what all the great HC's did, they created a new offense or a new defense which kept them above the pack for at least a decade, before the other teams learned how to use it or defend it. Today their creations are all well know, whether it be Don Shula = Zone defense, Bill Walsh = WCO, Al Davis = the Bump and Run defense, Pittsburgh HC when they won 4 SB's(I forget his name, for the moment), The Cover 2 defense, recreated by Tony Dungy when he coached. BB brought the 3-4 defense to the NFL etc. etc. and he continues to show his creativity almost every game by scheming for the next opponent.

This is why his coaching tree has not been able to replicate BB's success, they simply lack his creativity. Certainly, Brady had an awful lot to do with BB's record, but he has clearly shown, that when Brady is hurt, he can still win even with substitutes. Quite amazing really!!!

Everyday, OC's and DC's are studying film, trying desperately to come up with something new that will confuse their opponents and every generation, there are only one or maybe 2 who will have the real creativity to rise above the pack and finely become successful HC's. BB was already a genius DC under Bill Parcels and likely played a huge part in Parcel's success.

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5 hours ago, Crickett said:

So my question is, why have so few in the Belichick coaching tree been able to find real success elsewhere as head coaches? 

Belichick's strength as a head coach isn't a static strength like many others. Its the ability to be extremely versatile and not overly reliant on one way to win like every other team in the NFL. If Zeke can't run on the Cowboys they lose. If Matt Ryan's receivers can't outspeed the defenders so they can have an overwhelming pass attack they lose. If you can stuff Leveon Bell the Steelers lose. If Beckham doesn't have a game the Giants lose. 

You can take any single piece away from the Patriots and they have another way to beat you with what you had to give up to take that away. They did it with Denver last year running Lewis up the gut. The Falcons played excellent cover one and suffocated the pass game and stuffed the run game, so the Patriots just allowed the RB's to come out of the backfield and run in space so that they could eventually tire out the Falcons. In 2014 they played Detroit who had one of the best d-lines in the league and Brady just short passed them to death. When they play a team with a weak run defense than can gut you with players like Blount and Jonas Gray (remember him). 

You can't just take a snap shot of what he does on a given day and replicate it because he's only showing one dimension. It's the ability to switch gears and then to do it fast and midgame by identifying weaknesses. Alot of this is possible because Brady is one of if not the only QB whose shown the versatility to keep up with how much Belichick shifts the offense.

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Well first the coach has to have total football control.  2nd he will have to work just as hard as BB. And you have to have a cold hearted business mind. Players give it all for a coach, the coach reconizez that by keeping him around or rewarding him for past services. BB don't. You have to be that hard to be that way. You can't let your ego get in the way. An earlier poster mentioned that the Kony Ealy situation. He traded up 8 spots for this guy, he found out he was wrong and he cut him. He did not try to force him on the field to make himself look better- he just cut him and moved on. 

The question should not be why nfl coaches are not like BB but why are not nfl owners more like kraft.  He gave BB the control that a coach needs to act this way.  

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7 hours ago, lancerman said:

Belichick's strength as a head coach isn't a static strength like many others. Its the ability to be extremely versatile and not overly reliant on one way to win like every other team in the NFL. If Zeke can't run on the Cowboys they lose. If Matt Ryan's receivers can't outspeed the defenders so they can have an overwhelming pass attack they lose. If you can stuff Leveon Bell the Steelers lose. If Beckham doesn't have a game the Giants lose. 

You can take any single piece away from the Patriots and they have another way to beat you with what you had to give up to take that away. They did it with Denver last year running Lewis up the gut. The Falcons played excellent cover one and suffocated the pass game and stuffed the run game, so the Patriots just allowed the RB's to come out of the backfield and run in space so that they could eventually tire out the Falcons. In 2014 they played Detroit who had one of the best d-lines in the league and Brady just short passed them to death. When they play a team with a weak run defense than can gut you with players like Blount and Jonas Gray (remember him). 

You can't just take a snap shot of what he does on a given day and replicate it because he's only showing one dimension. It's the ability to switch gears and then to do it fast and midgame by identifying weaknesses. Alot of this is possible because Brady is one of if not the only QB whose shown the versatility to keep up with how much Belichick shifts the offense.

And he has the willingness to change. So many changes are dogmatic to their thinking, playcalling, and team building regardless of the talent on their team. Like how Lovie Smith was playing Revis in Cover 2 despite Revis being one of the greatest man corners in the history of the NFL. If Lovie ever does coach in the NFL again he will STILL use cover 2 even though it is outdated and ineffective.

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BB brought the 3-4 defense to the NFL etc. etc.

Huh? 

I have seen this twice in this thread and do not understand the reference.   Steelers have been run a 3-4 defense since 1983 and they did not bring it to the NFL.

I would think Belichick has made the hybrid defense popular. Tackles playing 2 gap and ends playing 1 gap.

 

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