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Average Offensive Starter PFF Scores for NFL


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This came up from people constantly saying that Rodgers needs more help.  Yes.  He does.  NOT because we’re especially lacking in talent comparatively.  He’s old.  He’s got bad habits.  We need to put more help around him because of his limits as he gets older, but the notion that we are sorely lacking offensively is all kinds of false.

This is really pretty incredible.  If you take PFF for anything, Gute and company need a LOT of credit for putting this team around Rodgers in spite of investing most draft capital and resources into defense.  How we got this much talent offensively with such little draft capital is nothing short of outstanding.  

*I rounded to the nearest whole number for individual ratings, then rounded to the nearest 10th for overall scores.
*I kept it simple and used a team’s 1st and 2nd rusher by rushing yards.
*First and second TE/WR by receiving yards.
*OL by most starts.

-I will gradually update this with rankings, notes, etc.  If you want to provide a ranking, for example Aaron Jones was 5th among backs (or whatever he was), go ahead and I will update the original post.

-I will also add QB ratings soon enough.  After that, I will provide a QB/Offense ratio.  

-I still do not think I was wrong about Jimmy Graham.  It looks very obvious to me that BLOCKING weighs more in the TE ratings than receiving.  We know Graham is not a blocker.  We always knew this.  

-I really wish there was an easier way to do this.  If there was, I would do this for defense, too.  Since I don’t pay for PFF, I had to find the players with Player Season Finder, then Google each player’s PFF score.  It took a lot of time.

-These are ranked by Average Score of WR 1-3, RB 1-2, TE 1-2, Starting OL.  

1. Philadelphia
RB 1 62
RB 2 69
WR1 75
WR2 54
WR3 73
TE1 73
TE2 83
OT 89
OT 82
C 81
G 70
G 93
Average Score: 75.3

2. Dallas
RB 1 77
RB 2 83
WR1 84
WR2 74
WR3 70
TE1 59
TE2 61
OT 77
OT 86
C 70
G 88
G 61
Average Score: 74.1

3. Baltimore
RB 1 80
RB 2 70
WR1 71
WR2 61
WR3 64
TE1 91
TE2 74
OT 72
OT 87
C 69
G 63
G 86
Average Score: 74

4. Indianapolis
RB 1 70
RB 2 70
WR1 74
WR2 75
WR3 60
TE1 69
TE2 71
OT 81
OT 80
C 73
G 61
G 91
Average Score: 72.9

5. New Orleans
RB 1 70
RB 2 74
WR1 90
WR2 64
WR3 57
TE1 76
TE2 67
OT 91
OT 80
C 76
G 50
G 73
Average Score: 72.3

6. Green Bay
RB 1 85
RB 2 77
WR 1 84
WR 2 72
WR 3 57
TE 1 55
TE 2 71
LT 79
RG 69
C 70
LG 65
RT 78
Average Score: 71.8

7. Tampa Bay
RB 1 68
RB 2 65
WR1 86
WR2 91
WR3 73
TE1 55
TE2 66
OT 71
OT 71
C 79
G 63
G 72
Average Score: 71.6

8. Oakland
RB 1 87
RB 2 77
WR1 67
WR2 76
WR3 54
TE1 83
TE2 71
OT 69
OT 65
C 71
G 62
G 74
Average Score: 71.3

9. San Francisco
RB 1 76
RB 2 73
WR1 75
WR2 78
WR3 67
TE1 95
TE2 56
OT 68 (Skule/Brunskill split)
OT 68
C 63
G 65
G 62
Average Score: 70.5

10. Minnesota
RB 1 81
RB 2 69
WR1 79
WR2 76
WR3 66
TE1 73
TE2 65
OT 71
OT 71
C 58
G 62
G 65
Average Score: 69.7

11. Tennessee
RB 1 76
RB 2 60
WR1 84
WR2 70
WR3 70
TE1 72
TE2 64
OT 78
OT 73
C 77
G 41
G 71
Average Score: 69.7

12. Detroit
RB 1 67
RB 2 72
WR1 80
WR2 73
WR3 72
TE1 61
TE2 55
OT 76
OT 59
C 75
G 74
G 65
Average Score: 69.1

13. Kansas City
RB 1 67
RB 2 66
WR1 85
WR2 67
WR3 69
TE1 85
TE2 50
OT 84
OT 55 (average of Erving/Fisher who split starts)
C 63
G 67
G 57
Average Score: 67.9

14. Seattle
RB 1 78
RB 2 75
WR1 77
WR2 70
WR3 57
TE1 62
TE2 80
OT 56
OT 74
C 60 (Hunt/Britt split)
G 60
G 60
Average Score: 67.4

15. Houston
RB 1 74
RB 2 74
WR1 87
WR2 76
WR3 72
TE1 55
TE2 60
OT 59
OT 76
C 66
G 52
G 57
Average Score: 67.3

16. LA Rams
RB 1 67
RB 2 64
WR1 74
WR2 82
WR3 68
TE1 86
TE2 76
OT 73
OT 51
C 51
G 52
G 61
Average Score: 67.1

17. New England
RB 1 68
RB 2 70
WR1 72
WR2 67
WR3 65
TE1 54
TE2 54
OT 67 (Wynn/Newhouse Split)
OT 68
C 65
G 73
G 77
Average Score: 66.7

18. Arizona
RB 1 71
RB 2 72
WR1 70
WR2 63
WR3 64
TE1 65
TE2 79
OT 65
OT 63
C 58
G 67
G 62
Average Score - 66.6

19. Atlanta
RB 1 61
RB 2 59
WR1 91
WR2 75
WR3 66
TE1 78
TE2 65
OT 80
OT 53
C 72
G 45
G 53
Average Score: 66.5

20. Buffalo
RB 1 66
RB 2 64
WR1 76
WR2 74
WR3 69
TE1 60
TE2 73
OT 73
OT 52
C 66
G 55
G 64
Average Score: 66 even

21. New York Giants
RB 1 72
RB 2 61
WR1 76
WR2 74
WR3 70
TE1 64
TE2 55
OT 64
OT 65
C 56
G 76
G 59
Average Score: 66 even

22. Cleveland
RB 1 89
RB 2 77
WR1 78
WR2 69
WR3 54
TE1 57
TE2 45
OT 74
OT 67
C 72
G 51
G 57
Average Score: 65.8

23. Washington
RB 1 68
RB 2 76
WR1 86
WR2 64
WR3 64
TE1 50
TE2 49
OT 65
OT 64
C 69
G 64
G 75
Average Score: 66.2

24. Denver
RB 1 71
RB 2 66
WR1 83
WR2 56
WR3 67
TE1 52
TE2 62
OT 60
OT 76
C 72
G 58
G 64
Average Score: 65.6

25. LA Chargers
RB 1 66
RB 2 85
WR1 80
WR2 74
WR3 64
TE1 73
TE2 58
OT 50
OT 59
C 58
G 52
G 64
Average Score: 65.3

26. Carolina
RB 1 87
RB 2 55
WR1 82
WR2 63
WR3 48
TE1 67
TE2 52
OT 76
OT 56
C 64
G 64
G 66
Average Score: 65 even

27. Pittsburgh
RB 1 74
RB 2 67
WR1 69
WR2 68
WR3 63
TE1 45
TE2 48
OT 75
OT 74
C 52
G 59
G 71
Average Score: 63.8

28. Chicago
RB 1 67
RB 2 61
WR1 81
WR2 66
WR3 62
TE1 49
TE2 67
OT 63
OT 59
C 65
G 70
G 52
Average Score: 63.5

29. Jacksonville
RB 1 64
RB 2 55
WR1 75
WR2 63
WR3 64
TE1 63
TE2 58
OT 55
OT 64
C 76
G 55
G 66
Average Score: 63.2

30. New York Jets
RB 1 74
RB 2 55
WR1 69
WR2 72
WR3 66
TE1 62
TE2 49
OT 67
OT 64
C 51
G 56
G 62
Average Score: 62.3

31. Cincinnati
RB 1 75
RB 2 52
WR1 73
WR2 71
WR3 67
TE1 66
TE2 49
OT 58
OT 60 (average of 2 players Glen and Smith since IDK WTF was going on with them this year)
C 62
G 59
G 44
Average Score: 61.3

32. Miami
RB 1 68
RB 2 71
WR1 79
WR2 68
WR3 57
TE1 61
TE2 53
OT 59
OT 46 (Davenport/Webb split)
C 66
G 43
G 47
Average Score: 59.8

 

 

 

 

 

1. Wentz 75.6
2. Prescott 80.3
3. Jackson 91.1
4. Brissett 59.2
5. Brees 91.2
6. Rodgers 81.2
7. WInston 68.4
8. Carr 79.9
9. Jimmy 78.2
10. Cousins 84.3
11. Tannehill 92.5
12. Stafford 82.4
13. Mahomes 84.1
14. Wilson 91.2
15. Watson 81.0
16. Goff 72.4
17. Brady 80.4
18. Murray 64
19. Ryan 75.8
20. Allen 64.2
21. Jones 65.7
22. Mayfield 73.5
23. Haskins 67.6
24. Lock 57.6
25. Rivers 74.3
26. Allen 49.7
27. I don’t care
28. Trubisky 64
29. Minshew 70.3
30. Darnold 63.4
31. I don’t remember and I don’t care
32. Fitzpatrick 76.5

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Top-rated Quarterbacks
1. Tannehill 92.5
2. Wilson 91.2
3. Brees 91.2
4. Jackson 91.1
5. Cousins 84.3
6. Mahomes 84.1
7. Stafford 82.4
8. Rodgers 81.2
9. Watson 81.0
10. Brady 80.4
11. Prescott 80.3
12. Carr 79.9
13. Fitzpatrick 76.5
14. Wentz 75.6

Quarterback ratings Over/Under Team Rankings
1.Wilson + 23.8
2. Tannehill + 22.8
3. Brees + 18.9
4. Jackson +17.1
5.Fitzpatrick + 16.7
6. Mahomes +16.2
7. Cousins +14.6
8. Watson + 13.7
9. Brady +13.7
10.Stafford +13.3
11. Rodgers +9.4
12.Ryan + 9.3
13. Rivers + 9
14. Carr +8.6
15. Jimmy G. +7.7
16. Mayfield + 7.7
17. Minshew + 7.1
18.Prescott + 5.8
19. Goff + 5.3
20. Haskins + 1.4
21. Trubisky + .5
22. Wentz + .3
23. Jones -.3
24. Allen - 1.8
25. Murray - 2.6
26. Winston - 3.2
27. Lock - 8
28. Brissett - 13.7

 

 

 

 

Corey Linsley: 12th (Tied with three others)
Billy Turner: 21st (tied with three others)

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What I really wanted to accomplish with this was to provide some perspective. 

For example, Billy Turner, whom many of us think is terrible, was tied for 21st among all starting guards.

For those not good at math, 21/64 is top half of the entire league. 

So when people say he's above average, it's because he is.  Average in the NFL is not good. 

 

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Just now, Norm said:

This makes it look like there's only 5 teams with decent OLs

Because there are only 5 teams with good OLs.  Looking at these made me terrified of Bulaga leaving or Linsley getting cut. 

 

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Just now, BarnettOSU said:

Question. 
 

What if the good O-Lines Rodgers has had lately, has caused him to believe he can hold onto the ball as long as he wants?

What if we gave him a bad line and forced him to get the ball out fast?

thinking out loud lol. 

That would get ugly. 

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Just now, Arthur Penske said:

Teams should just all can their GMs and scouting staff and let PFF run their free agency/drafts, no?

Or maybe you could stop being a **** how about that?  That sound good?  Sorry you can't hack the fact that Rodgers isn't crippled by a bad offense. 

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25 minutes ago, BarnettOSU said:

Question. 
 

What if the good O-Lines Rodgers has had lately, has caused him to believe he can hold onto the ball as long as he wants?

What if we gave him a bad line and forced him to get the ball out fast?

thinking out loud lol. 

He would have 1000 sacks

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All this does is make me seriously question how PFF comes up with these ratings. Not saying your wrong by any stretch, but I don't think using PFF ratings are going to prove anything. For example look at how Philly is number 1. Yet it is pretty apparent to all that they need to inject some serious talent at the WR position. I agree with you that the Offense has plenty of quality players. That doesn't mean a specific position group of the offense isn't lacking in talent.

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