Arthur Penske Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: "I'm right about Jimmy Graham still, PFF obviously uses blocking way more than receiving and lowers his score. Allen Lazard (an excellent blocking WR) LOOK AT HIS PFF SCORE, HE'S BETTER THAN MOST #2'S!!!" Our pass catchers are bad. I don't care what PFF says. Adams is elite, then it's a bunch on guys who don't consistently separate. OL and RBs ? Yeah, very good, top 8 in the league I would say. Offense needs pass catchers. Agree 100% with this. @Outpost31 Edited March 6, 2020 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, cannondale said: Are you going to say with a straight face that Adams, Allison, Lazard, Kumerow, and Graham, can hold a candle to Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Cobb, Driver and Finley ? Toss in 2 Pro Bowl guards as well. If so, that's about as gross as it can get. Edit: To further illustrate my point, I totally forgot about MVS. Probably because he sucks too. The talent around Rodgers has not "dwindled down to nothing." Your statement was stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: The talent around Rodgers has not "dwindled down to nothing." Your statement was stupid. Dwindled down to mediocrity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Packerraymond said: Dwindled down to mediocrity. Similarly nonsensical. The talent around Rodgers has been fine. He's got 5 guys on offense around him that are distinctly above average (Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Linsley, Adams, Jones) and 2 others that are around average (Jenkins, Turner). This isn't a mediocre roster on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Similarly nonsensical. The talent around Rodgers has been fine. He's got 5 guys on offense around him that are distinctly above average (Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Linsley, Adams, Jones) and 2 others that are around average (Jenkins, Turner). This isn't a mediocre roster on offense. The next time we want to run a tackle eligible, we should be good to go. That's a relief. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Similarly nonsensical. The talent around Rodgers has been fine. He's got 5 guys on offense around him that are distinctly above average (Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Linsley, Adams, Jones) and 2 others that are around average (Jenkins, Turner). This isn't a mediocre roster on offense. He's talking about pass catchers. Running game has nothing to do with Rodgers other than it's impact on the PA pass game. When people say "talent around Rodgers" they mean people he's throwing the football to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Yeah, I need to eat it with Graham. He’s bad. Adams, Lazard, MVS and Allison, thanks to Adams, makes our pass catchers average. Unless you think what the Steelers, Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Jaguars, Colts, Titans, Patriots, Ravens, Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, Redskins, Eagles, Niners, Cardinals (am I past 16 yet) we’re better off at WR 1-3. Spoiler alert: They weren’t. Our pass catchers (from 1-4) were better than half the league. The bad 1/2. Need better wr to get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Similarly nonsensical. The talent around Rodgers has been fine. He's got 5 guys on offense around him that are distinctly above average (Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Linsley, Adams, Jones) and 2 others that are around average (Jenkins, Turner). This isn't a mediocre roster on offense. It is for wr. Bottom half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Yeah, I need to eat it with Graham. He’s bad. Adams, Lazard, MVS and Allison, thanks to Adams, makes our pass catchers average. Unless you think what the Steelers, Bills, Dolphins, Jets, Bengals, Jaguars, Colts, Titans, Patriots, Ravens, Raiders, Broncos, Panthers, Redskins, Eagles, Niners, Cardinals (am I past 16 yet) we’re better off at WR 1-3. Spoiler alert: They weren’t. Our pass catchers (from 1-4) were better than half the league. There are three Id swap 1-3, Pitt, Bengals (if AJ Green was hypothetically 100%), Panthers. That's only because of how much I love Adams. A bunch more I'd swap 2&3 with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, coachbuns said: The bad 1/2. Need better wr to get better. Did you just read the teams I listed? Are you honestly saying that our receiving corps is bottom half of the league? Name 16 receiving corps better than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just now, Outpost31 said: Did you just read the teams I listed? Are you honestly saying that our receiving corps is bottom half of the league? Name 16 receiving corps better than ours. It's hard because of how good Adams is. If you say name a better 2-5, easily bottom 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Running game has nothing to do with Rodgers other than it's impact on the PA pass game. I'm on your side with the talent at pass catcher here, but this line is downplaying Jones value to Rodgers quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: It's hard because of how good Adams is. If you say name a better 2-5, easily bottom 16. Yes, but we HAVE ADAMS. 20 teams have better #2 receivers. Say 22 teams have better #2 receivers. Not all 22 of those teams have better #1 receivers. We are not hurting for talent compared to the rest of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Yes, but we HAVE ADAMS. 20 teams have better #2 receivers. Say 22 teams have better #2 receivers. Not all 22 of those teams have better #1 receivers. We are not hurting for talent compared to the rest of the NFL. It's much easier to stop the #1 guy when your #2 guy is more like a #3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Its gotta be either 1 of 2 directions we go in. We have to think Rodgers can elevate some play around him or we have to start the search for our next QB post haste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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