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(Polls) Rank/Choose the Top Tackles & Joe Thomas Says Wirfs is a Guard

Rank the Tackles  

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  1. 1. Who's Your 2020 OT1 NFL Draft Prospect?

    • Mekhi Becton, OT Louisville
    • Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia
    • Jedrick Wills Jr., OT Alabama
    • Tristan Wirfs, OT/OG Iowa
    • Josh Jones, OT Houston
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    • Austin Jackson, OT USC
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  2. 2. Is there a Clear Best, Head and Shoulders Above the Rest Tackle Prospect in the Draft?

  3. 3. How Many Tackles Go Off the Board BEFORE the Browns Select?

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    • 2
    • 3
    • 4
    • 0 - None; We'll be Selecting the 1st Tackle Taken in the NFL Draft


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I’m great with any of them except Becton. I don’t see it at all.

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4 hours ago, MWil23 said:

I’m great with any of them except Becton. I don’t see it at all.

That's how I feel.

Though he's a freaking behemoth in size.

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Though I'm tempted to gamble on Mekhi Becton's upside, if it's not Jedrick Wills, the Browns should absolutely trade down multiple times creating an insane amount of assets for the present and future drafts as we have more roster holes than anyone realizes and it's going to take Andrew Berry type and draft capital to stabilize the roster.

Andrew Thomas is not a scheme-fit.

Tristan Wirfs is a Guard and has Mentality concerns.

That leaves just Jedrick Wills and Me
hi Becton. Wills' imo is the only sure thing and is going to be an All-Pro. Becton can be and if Berry makes that pick it makes some sense taking that gamble, but ultimately I'd rather trade down and target the pairing of Robert Hunt, OG/OT Louisiana Lafayette and Austin Jackson, LT USC, along with other non-OT prospects.

Coming out of the combine there's also talk that the Browns love love Kenneth Murray, LB Oklahoma. Assuming that's the case it makes for some interesting late-round 1 scenarios if we trade down and then trade back into the 1st with some 2nd rounders in order to have multiple 1st round picks.

As it stands, I'm all in on only these scenarios:

1.) Draft Jedrick WIlls Jr., OT Alabama either via Trade Up or at 10.

2.) Trade Down Numerous Times Creating Tons of Present and Future Draft Capital (Target the Pairing of Robert Hunt, OG/OT Louisiana-Lafayette with either Austin Jackson, LT USC, Jack Driscoll, OT Auburn, or Prince Tega-Wanogho, OT Auburn.  (In this scenario, it's going to be vital to have either traded a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams and/or signed Jack Conklin via free agency even though I don't really believe in Conklin he is a starting Tackle.

3.) A Distant 3rd Option -- Draft Mekhi Bect, OT Louisville at 10

4.) Draft CeeDee Lamb at 10 and prepare to move Landry and Beckham.

5.) Draft Derrick Brown at 10.

 

 

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If we get Conklin im free agency id love to trade down a few times, selecting in the 20s to 25s.  Makes the line solid, and then allows to focus the rest of the roster, truly go BPA.

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@Mind Character which free agents, or position groups cpvered in free agency would allow us to go best player available in the draft? 

 

 

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Best possible scenario is trading for Trent and signing Conklin. We’d be a instant playoff team with those 2.

 

However, Andrew Thomas is my guy.

Edited by candyman93

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5 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

Best possible scenario is trading for Trent and signing Conklin. We’d be a instant playoff team with those 2.

 

However, Andrew Thomas is my guy.

We were a playoff team last year at this time iirc

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18 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

Best possible scenario is trading for Trent and signing Conklin. We’d be a instant playoff team with those 2.

Yes.

Just say no to Thomas.

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45 minutes ago, bruceb said:

Just say no to Thomas.

Be like all the ladies

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15 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

@Mind Character which free agents, or position groups cpvered in free agency would allow us to go best player available in the draft?

I think there are some positional groups in the draft that are more at risk of teams reaching on players in that group.

Safeties is one group where a 1st or 2nd round pick on Austin Davis, FS Cal -OR- Grant Delpit, S LSU, as well as a host of 4 to 5 others is likely to be akin to flushing draft pick down the drain as those guys are the types that GMs will always be looking to upgrade. Outside of Antoine Winfied Jr., I don't really believe in guys in that positional group.

So, signing two safeties in free agencies (1, Free Safety and 1, Strong Safety) helps us avoid bypassing BPA.

As the guys mentioned, Signing 1 if not 2 Tackles frees us up not to force a Tackle selection in the 1st if it doesn't make sense.

Defensive End and the Defensive Tackle Position group in the draft is a minefield of JAGs and fool's gold. So, acquiring or signing a person that plays those positions is important as well.

As a ranking: 1.) OT, 2.) FS, 3.) SS, 4.) DE, 5.) DT .... Honorable mention: LB.

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6 minutes ago, Mind Character said:

 

Defensive End and the Defensive Tackle Position group in the draft is a minefield of JAGs and fool's gold. So, acquiring or signing a person that plays those positions is important as well.

As a ranking: 1.) OT, 2.) FS, 3.) SS, 4.) DE, 5.) DT .... Honorable mention: LB.

That is why vernon is still on the roster, no easy way to replace his production. Not popular but a good move by the nerds to retain his service. 

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8 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

That is why vernon is still on the roster, no easy way to replace his production. Not popular but a good move by the nerds to retain his service. 

Indeed.

As soon as they see a viable path to replace him, he's gone.

Teams know before Free Agency officially starts whether or not they're likely to get a particular player or not.

That then effects their draft strategy.

How Free Agency goes will likely effect Vernon. There's no reason to cut him if we strike out on all of the big$ free agents.

Edited by Mind Character

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On 3/8/2020 at 5:38 AM, Kiwibrown said:

He was right about corbet 100% he knows what he takes to be an olinemen. 

 

He also thought Shon Coleman was the second best tackle in the NFL...

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18 hours ago, Kiwibrown said:

If we get Conklin im free agency id love to trade down a few times, selecting in the 20s to 25s.  Makes the line solid, and then allows to focus the rest of the roster, truly go BPA.

No, why not draft the best player at 10? You now have a set of bookend tackles that will be around 20 and 26 years old. They could be together for the next 5 years at least. If you do t draft a tackle the Browns could draft the best DL or best LB/safety depending on where you want to play Simmons. You also have a chance at Okudah who is an absolute stud of a DB, who IMO is a better prospect than Ward. Hell Okudah could be moved around and you let him wreck havoc. Too much talent possibly at 10 to trade down. Only way you trade down is if all the talent you want is gone or some team just drastically over pays for a QB who fell

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