43M Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 People keep exaggerating the current death rate in the US. 37 of the 50 deaths are from Washington state, 22 or 23 of which were from the same nursing home. In no way am I downplaying this or saying people shouldnt be concerned or prepared, nor am I saying it wont get worse, but I wish some people would stop using statistics without context. Thats what NFL Gen is for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, FourThreeMafia said: People keep exaggerating the current death rate in the US. 37 of the 50 deaths are from Washington state, 22 or 23 of which were from the same nursing home. In no way am I downplaying this or saying people shouldnt be concerned or prepared, nor am I saying it wont get worse, but I wish some people would stop using statistics without context. Thats what NFL Gen is for. What stats do you mean? If anything these stats show just how concerning this should be to the elderly population, especially those in poor health. There’s a reason most SNF’s have stopped visitation. How many more nursing homes may have similar numbers over the next few weeks? I get your point, but there’s literally no way to downplay the importance of staying the hell away from people, especially old and sick ones. You have earned a like for pooping on Gen, I’m a simple man in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What stats do you mean? If anything these stats show just how concerning this should be to the elderly population, especially those in poor health. There’s a reason most SNF’s have stopped visitation. How many more nursing homes may have similar numbers over the next few weeks? I get your point, but there’s literally no way to downplay the importance of staying the hell away from people, especially old and sick ones. You have earned a like for pooping on Gen, I’m a simple man in that regard. Im referring to the current OVERALL mortality rate in the US being spiked by one state, and especially one nursing home....and IIRC, those were some of the first cases. I 100% agree the elderly need to stay isolated and everyone needs to take it seriously. Just saying we need to look at things in depth and not create MORE panic with somewhat misleading stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, FourThreeMafia said: Im referring to the current OVERALL mortality rate in the US being spiked by one state, and especially one nursing home....and IIRC, those were some of the first cases. I 100% agree the elderly need to stay isolated and everyone needs to take it seriously. Just saying we need to look at things in depth and not create MORE panic with somewhat misleading stats. Like I said earlier though, most people aren’t afraid of dying from the virus, they’re afraid of the societal consequences that occur so old people don’t die of the virus as the healthcare system becomes overwhelmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What stats do you mean? If anything these stats show just how concerning this should be to the elderly population, especially those in poor health. There’s a reason most SNF’s have stopped visitation. How many more nursing homes may have similar numbers over the next few weeks? I get your point, but there’s literally no way to downplay the importance of staying the hell away from people, especially old and sick ones. You have earned a like for pooping on Gen, I’m a simple man in that regard. Tbf its not uncommon for nursing homes to have outbreaks of flu, viral pneumonia, norovirus or whatever that lead to a large number of hospitalizations and deaths. Clearly this is more severe but any serious upper respiratory infection outbreak in a nursing home is going to be bad news. If anything good comes of this maybe our generation will be more conscientious going forward about not carelessly spreading illness especially to people who are particularly vulnerable. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Like I said earlier though, most people aren’t afraid of dying from the virus, they’re afraid of the societal consequences that occur so old people don’t die of the virus as the healthcare system becomes overwhelmed. Yep. For most of us outside vike_daddy our chances of dying are pretty low but the social and economic consequences for the time being + uncertainty about how long that will last, really suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dome Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, mission27 said: If anything good comes of this maybe our generation will be more conscientious going forward about not carelessly spreading illness especially to people who are particularly vulnerable. I'm pretty angry with people I work with who are acting like this isn't something to take seriously at all. Not being subtle about it either. There are still way too many of them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Dome said: I'm pretty angry with people I work with who are acting like this isn't something to take seriously at all. Not being subtle about it either. There are still way too many of them. Yeah seriously and it’s not hard. Nobody is saying socially isolate forever, just take a break for a few weeks to get this back under control and then going forward be careful when you are sick not to spread illness. It’s not that much to ask. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, mission27 said: Yeah seriously and it’s not hard. Nobody is saying socially isolate forever, just take a break for a few weeks to get this back under control and then going forward be careful when you are sick not to spread illness. It’s not that much to ask. I like the idea of taking a few months off and isolate, financially that's not an issue for me and i'm fortunate there... but I work in a grocery story and the people who would have to cover my shifts are older, both over 50 and smokers. i don't want to make them work for me when I dip out cause I can cause I've got no kids. but I also don't want to catch/spread this to my mom who has asthma, my grandma who is in the last few years of her life or my grandpa who is one of the healthiest 80-year olds I know, dude goes kayak fishing still... i won't be seeing them hardly at all until this is over, considering i "contact" hundreds of people each day when I work, just can't risk it. it's a lot to consider, it would be easy to peace out and keep tabs on the situation until mid summer, but moral i don't think I can or should. obviously things could change, quickly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dome said: I like the idea of taking a few months off and isolate, financially that's not an issue for me and i'm fortunate there... but I work in a grocery story and the people who would have to cover my shifts are older, both over 50 and smokers. i don't want to make them work for me when I dip out cause I can cause I've got no kids. but I also don't want to catch/spread this to my mom who has asthma, my grandma who is in the last few years of her life or my grandpa who is one of the healthiest 80-year olds I know, dude goes kayak fishing still... i won't be seeing them hardly at all until this is over, considering i "contact" hundreds of people each day when I work, just can't risk it. it's a lot to consider, it would be easy to peace out and keep tabs on the situation until mid summer, but moral i don't think I can or should. obviously things could change, quickly. Yeah not everyone has the choice... totally understand... there's definitely still things you can do to reduce the spread, which hopefully people are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehardlionfan Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 38 minutes ago, Dome said: I'm pretty angry with people I work with who are acting like this isn't something to take seriously at all. Not being subtle about it either. There are still way too many of them. That’s unfortunate. Without extreme social distancing etc. the U.S. is on pace to have over 3 million cases in 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 This happened in an adjacent tower to one of mine last night. We were doing well, but got a recent scare with someone else that got the virus. Sucks, because now more facilities are closed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I just went to Walmart to get some more canned goods since my time off got extended. The majority of shelves were half to completely empty. I'm sure they'll restock some overnight, but it's ridiculous. There was literally zero hamburger, steaks, or chicken except some sliced sandwich meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingseanjohn said: I just went to Walmart to get some more canned goods since my time off got extended. The majority of shelves were half to completely empty. I'm sure they'll restock some overnight, but it's ridiculous. There was literally zero hamburger, steaks, or chicken except some sliced sandwich meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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