Golfman Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Yes, we were 13-3 but we have a lot of guys who are nothing more than JAGs. Those are guys who I think we'd want to replace. Here are my thoughts on 1st string, 2nd string (currently) and JAGs. Guys you want to replace if you can. Even if we keep ALL of the JAGs (in my opinion), we still need 5 more players. In theory we should want to replace as many as 17 players. Not sure that is feasible. Stating the obvious but WR, ILB, DL and OL are desperate situations as we sit here today. I didn't include FB so if you want Vitale back we have one less spot to address. 1st Team 2nd Team Jag/replaced QB Aaron Rodgers Tim Boyle RB Aaron Jones Jamal Williams Dexter Williams WR Davante Adams Marquis Valdes-Scantling WR Equinameous St. Brown Darius Shepard WR Allan Lazard Jake Kumerow TE Jace Sternberger Evan Bayliss TE Robert Tonyan T David Bakhtiari Alex Light G Elgton Jenkins Lane Taylor Cole Madision C Corey Linsley Patrick Lucas G Billy Turner T Ricky Wagner Josh Nijman DE Kingsley Keke James Looney DT Kenny Clark Tyler Lancaster DE Dean Lowry Montavious Adams EDGE Z'darius Smith Greg Roberts EDGE Preston Smith Rashan Gary ILB Christian Kirksey Tyler Summers ILB Oren Burks Curtis Bolton CB Jaire Alexander Ka'dar Hollman CB Kevin King Josh Jackson CB Chandon Sullivan S Adrian Amos Ibreheim Campbell S Darnell Savage Raven Greene K Mason Crosby P JK Scott LS Hunter Bradley KR Tyler Erving 26 10 14 Edited March 16, 2020 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Explain to me how Keke and Burks aren't both JAGs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I think you can manage with multiple jags starting, you just can’t have holes like Bell, Brice, and one edge 2 years ago. Right now I’d say have 2 clear holes where we are looking at starting a guys who will be abused or out of position; OT- It is dire there right now ILB- unless Burks pops, we need a guy Places where we would like to upgrade but can manage if need be; TE- stern and ton have potential and flashed a little DL- Lowry is the definition of Jag. Lancaster is a solid role player. Then we have mid round flyers. We could manage against most teams except like SF/Bal WR-similarly to las year, potential for guys to make a jump. More talent would be great though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Explain to me how Keke and Burks aren't both JAGs? Keke showed promise and we all know DL take a year or two - so the jury is still out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: Keke showed promise and we all know DL take a year or two - so the jury is still out Keke showed less this year than Adams did last year and we saw how that worked out. You can't count on Keke to be a player. If you can't count on them, they pretty much by definition have to go into the JAG category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I feel like if we upgrade at vertical threat and IDL and stay the same everywhere else we’re a legitimate contender. We can afford SLIGHT decrease at RT. If we improve at IDL significantly, we can do worse at ILB. We also need to replace Tramon with a veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetana34 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 We can use a player at literally every position group on the team. To me, the order of importance goes: DL, WR, LB, OT, TE, CB, RB, QB. Believe this draft is strong at RB, WR, and OT. I'd like to see those addressed in the draft, DL, LB, and CB addressed in FA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 54 minutes ago, cannondale said: Keke showed promise and we all know DL take a year or two - so the jury is still out Lancaster should at least be first team over him, even though he was meh, he was better than Keke last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Key Starter for 2020 Free Agent ERFA (cheap to return) Need upgrade/cap purge STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH QB Aaron Rodgers Tim Boyle - - RB Aaron Jones Jamaal Williams Tyler Ervin Dexter Williams O WR Davante Adams Jake Kumerow Equanimeous St. Brown IR - WR Allen Lazard Marquez Valdes-Scantling - - WR Geronimo Allison Ryan Grant O - - TE Jimmy Graham Marcedes Lewis Robert Tonyan Jace Sternberger LT David Bakhtiari Alex Light O John Leglue O Yosh Nijman IR LG Elgton Jenkins Lucas Patrick Cole Madison IR Lane Taylor IR C Corey Linsley Lucas Patrick - - RG Billy Turner Lucas Patrick Cole Madison IR - RT Bryan Bulaga Jared Veldheer Jason Spriggs IR - STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH LDE Dean Lowry Montravius Adams - - NT Kenny Clark Montravius Adams - - RDE Tyler Lancaster Kingsley Keke - - WLB Preston Smith Kyler Fackrell - - LILB B.J. Goodson Oren Burks - - RILB Blake Martinez Ty Summers Curtis Bolton IR - SLB Za'Darius Smith Rashan Gary Greg Roberts IR - LCB Jaire Alexander Q Chandon Sullivan Josh Jackson - SS Adrian Amos Q Raven Greene O Will Redmond - FS Darnell Savage Ibraheim Campbell - - RCB Kevin King Tramon Williams Ka'dar Hollman O - STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH PK Mason Crosby - - - P JK Scott - - - H JK Scott - - - PR Tyler Ervin Tramon Williams - - KR Tyler Ervin Chandon Sullivan - - LS Hunter Bradley - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Explain to me how Keke and Burks aren't both JAGs? No thanks! It's a discussion thread and people are more than welcome to their own opinions of people. I'm giving both of those guys another year to develop and if they are bottom of the roster, then we're in good shape. Explain to me who is better than Burks at ILB, on our current roster as it stands, heading into free agency? Kind of doubtful we turn over the entire crew, but if we can and upgrade, it will be at the cost of other position(s) with JAGs. Feel free to continue to pick fly **** out of pepper, or perhaps make your own list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Key Starter for 2020 Free Agent ERFA (cheap to return) Need upgrade/cap purge STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH QB Aaron Rodgers Tim Boyle - - RB Aaron Jones Jamaal Williams Tyler Ervin Dexter Williams O WR Davante Adams Jake Kumerow Equanimeous St. Brown IR - WR Allen Lazard Marquez Valdes-Scantling - - WR Geronimo Allison Ryan Grant O - - TE Jimmy Graham Marcedes Lewis Robert Tonyan Jace Sternberger LT David Bakhtiari Alex Light O John Leglue O Yosh Nijman IR LG Elgton Jenkins Lucas Patrick Cole Madison IR Lane Taylor IR C Corey Linsley Lucas Patrick - - RG Billy Turner Lucas Patrick Cole Madison IR - RT Bryan Bulaga Jared Veldheer Jason Spriggs IR - STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH LDE Dean Lowry Montravius Adams - - NT Kenny Clark Montravius Adams - - RDE Tyler Lancaster Kingsley Keke - - WLB Preston Smith Kyler Fackrell - - LILB B.J. Goodson Oren Burks - - RILB Blake Martinez Ty Summers Curtis Bolton IR - SLB Za'Darius Smith Rashan Gary Greg Roberts IR - LCB Jaire Alexander Q Chandon Sullivan Josh Jackson - SS Adrian Amos Q Raven Greene O Will Redmond - FS Darnell Savage Ibraheim Campbell - - RCB Kevin King Tramon Williams Ka'dar Hollman O - STARTER 2ND 3RD 4TH PK Mason Crosby - - - P JK Scott - - - H JK Scott - - - PR Tyler Ervin Tramon Williams - - KR Tyler Ervin Chandon Sullivan - - LS Hunter Bradley - EDIT: Forget it! Your key answers my ignorance. Edited March 15, 2020 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said: Lancaster should at least be first team over him, even though he was meh, he was better than Keke last year. Keke should have been moved to second team on my original list. This was my mistake, but Lancaster his hit his peak IMO and his peak is a JAG. Keke could surpass that, time will tell. Edited March 15, 2020 by Golfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Golfman said: Keke should have been moved to second team on my original list. This was my mistake, but Lancaster his hit his peak IMO and his peak is a JAG. Keke could surpass that, time will tell. Just saying right now before any moves or anything he's our starter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Gopackgonerd said: Just saying right now before any moves or anything he's our starter. Yeah, I wasn't viewing it from what we look like today. I was viewing at where these folks should be next year and who should be gone from roster. More to the point what roster spots really need an upgrade. It's just my opinion, so take if for what it's worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Gopackgonerd said: Lancaster should at least be first team over him, even though he was meh, he was better than Keke last year. That may or may not be true, but Lancaster wasn't a rookie, KeKe was. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2020/02/08/packers-rookie-review-dl-kingsley-keke/ I'm not ready to write him off after a rookie season. Hell - Gary gets a frickin free pass - not too much to ask KeKe gets the same 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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