Texansfan713 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 i hope more former players lash out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Conspiracy theory: Cal McNair is letting this happen because he wants to bring Rick Smith back. How else could he reintroduce his best friend (who was hated as a GM, mind you) unless he made this current GM look SO BAD that we'd all be begging for Smith? I don't know about you, but I'd give up my Coronavirus money to get Smith back right about now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, ET80 said: Conspiracy theory: Cal McNair is letting this happen because he wants to bring Rick Smith back. How else could he reintroduce his best friend (who was hated as a GM, mind you) unless he made this current GM look SO BAD that we'd all be begging for Smith? I don't know about you, but I'd give up my Coronavirus money to get Smith back right about now. HOL... Those Kempner alums are a witty bunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texans02 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ET80 said: Conspiracy theory: Cal McNair is letting this happen because he wants to bring Rick Smith back. How else could he reintroduce his best friend (who was hated as a GM, mind you) unless he made this current GM look SO BAD that we'd all be begging for Smith? I don't know about you, but I'd give up my Coronavirus money to get Smith back right about now. Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there. I was going to invest that money in TP futures and get rich! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, Texans02 said: Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down there. I was going to invest that money in TP futures and get rich! Oh, that window is closed... But I tell you, buying into baby wipes now is like buying Amazon when it was $1.75! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Dillon Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 The lions just got a clean 3rd and 5th for Slay, which is better than what we got for Nuk. Slay is also only getting 4 million more than we gave Roby. we could have had the money to sign a top free agent CB if we had signed a back up safety to 3 million instead of 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Dillon Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 and now Todd Gurly is on the open market.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Random hypothetical here - what if the trade was for Will Fuller instead of Hopkins? How are we feeling then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Dillon Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, ET80 said: Random hypothetical here - what if the trade was for Will Fuller instead of Hopkins? How are we feeling then? It’s a “what an idiot” moment followed by “well I hope Johnson regains his footing” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Pastor Dillon said: It’s a “what an idiot” moment followed by “well I hope Johnson regains his footing” I'd feel a lot better, actually. We'd be taking on salary, but we'd be trading away the David Johnson of WRs for the Will Fuller of RBs - and getting a 2nd out of it. But, that's not what happened... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pastor Dillon said: It’s a “what an idiot” moment followed by “well I hope Johnson regains his footing” Much more palatable.... esp. injury prone WR for somewhat less injury prone RB... Also, I would think signing speedy WR happens in FA (Philip Dorsett?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ET80 said: Random hypothetical here - what if the trade was for Will Fuller instead of Hopkins? How are we feeling then? I wouldn't be that mad at it. We can get a WR in round 2 that can stretch the field and possibly play a full season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumberjackchris Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1242113574358732800 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texans02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 3 hours ago, ET80 said: Random hypothetical here - what if the trade was for Will Fuller instead of Hopkins? How are we feeling then? If it was the exact same trade, replacing Hopkins with Fuller, we'd still be getting the short end of the deal due to Johnson's contract. Fuller is in a contract year, whereas Johnson is locked in WAY above market value for at least a couple of years. A 2nd or 3rd is the expected value for taking on DJ's contract, meaning the actual trade is their 4th next year for Fuller + our 4th this year. It assigns a negative value to Fuller, which isn't realistic. He's probably worth a 3rd to 4th round pick on his own, he has a lot of upside when healthy and he's entering what should be his prime. The fact he's in a contract year probably devalues him, so let's call him worth a 4th to 5th round pick. At worst, a Fuller - Johnson swap should look like this: Texans get: Johnson, 3rd, 5th Cards get: Fuller Realistically, the Fuller version of the trade would be fine if we remove the 4th rounder going to them. Nothing wrong with Fuller for DJ + 2nd + 4th next year, in terms of value. The dagger in the Hopkins - Johnson trade is that 4th rounder from us to them.The value hit from that 4th rounder takes the hypothetical Fuller trade from acceptable to a bad value, and the real Hopkins trade from a terrible, lazy trade to a legendary, historic disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I'll give you another example... we did a mock off-season with TCMD @ny92mike... The Cardinals GM offered David Johnson for Senio Kelemete (straight up) and I still said no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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