titans0021 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TitanSlim said: Idk, I feel like I'm still higher on Landry than some are. I think he’ll always be a fine player, worth the pick, you can do far worse. Just not sure he will ever be a true difference maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxx3 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, titans0021 said: I think he’ll always be a fine player, worth the pick, you can do far worse. Just not sure he will ever be a true difference maker. if you ask me, Landry is not worth a "second round that you traded up for" pick another derrick morgan...high draft pick with mid-round impact/production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said: if you ask me, Landry is not worth a "second round that you traded up for" pick another derrick morgan...high draft pick with mid-round impact/production A second round pick for a long-term starter is almost always worth it. Even if he’s just a slightly above average starter. We all just set a bar that’s way too high for Day 2 picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxx3 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, titans0021 said: A second round pick for a long-term starter is almost always worth it. Even if he’s just a slightly above average starter. We all just set a bar that’s way too high for Day 2 picks. if he doesn't take a step forward this year, i'd trade the guy for a box of cracker jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans0021 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said: if he doesn't take a step forward this year, i'd trade the guy for a box of cracker jack That’s because you’re crazy. He’d get $10-12 million per on the open market. Maybe more. Every team needs a solid, secondary edge rusher. We just foolishly placed all of our hopes for an impact edge on a 23 year old. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, titans0021 said: That’s because you’re crazy. He’d get $10-12 million per on the open market. Maybe more. Every team needs a solid, secondary edge rusher. We just foolishly placed all of our hopes for an impact edge on a 23 year old. I agree with this 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, deeluxx3 said: if he doesn't take a step forward this year, i'd trade the guy for a box of cracker jack Yikes.... 23 minutes ago, titans0021 said: I think he’ll always be a fine player, worth the pick, you can do far worse. Just not sure he will ever be a true difference maker. Right now, I compare him to a guy like Whitney Mercelius, maybe with a higher upside. We just need our JJ Watt impact player to help him out. Maybe Simmons can be that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, titans0021 said: That’s because you’re crazy. He’d get $10-12 million per on the open market. Maybe more. Every team needs a solid, secondary edge rusher. We just foolishly placed all of our hopes for an impact edge on a 23 year old. Facts. Not his fault Casey isn’t very good anymore and the team has neglected the opposite edge spot. He’s a solid player who went ghost the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 For comparison's sake... 2018+2019 Beasley: 1458 snaps, 38 pressures in which 13 resulted in sacks (34%). 2018+2019 Fowler Jr: 1457 snaps, 59 pressures in which 15.5 resulted in sacks (26%). 2018+2019 Clowney: 1507 snaps, 78 pressures in which 12 resulted in sacks (15%). Some additional info Some context for Davenport's tweet regarding PRWR - Clowney was at 25% and Fowler Jr. 23%. Beasley won 5.3% less than Clowney and 3.3% less than Fowler fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdTitansFan56 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Anyone have any insight on Desmond Trufant? Can he play slot and is he actually any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanRedd Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, MdTitansFan56 said: Anyone have any insight on Desmond Trufant? Can he play slot and is he actually any good? He can play inside & out & bump & run. It’s all about health with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, SerenityNow said: Loved him coming out of Clemson and was really explosive his first few years in the league. Don't know what happened the last couple years, but still a lot of upside there. Low risk/high reward type of deal which is solid. Same. I was a big fan of Beastly as a prospect. What I hear from a diehard Falcons fan that I practice with quite often is that the team didn’t use him properly after 2016, moving him inside in 2017 and 2018 most of the time. 2019 he got more sacks, so that’s a good sign. I think he’s never been the player that 2016 suggested he was, but he definitely is better than any edge on our roster except Landry. 1 hour ago, deeluxx3 said: if he doesn't take a step forward this year, i'd trade the guy for a box of cracker jack That’s objectively ridiculous. He got 10 sacks. If that’s so worthless, then why is it so hard to find? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I still wanna sign Nassib, dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: I still wanna sign Nassib, dammit. Just signed by Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeluxx3 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, titans0021 said: That’s because you’re crazy. He’d get $10-12 million per on the open market. Maybe more. Every team needs a solid, secondary edge rusher. We just foolishly placed all of our hopes for an impact edge on a 23 year old. Maybe I am a little bit crazy if he doesn’t take the next step, I’d seriously let his contract expire or trade him rather than overpay for him to stay. He’s not an impact player right now and we need an impact player at that position, not try and settle for average/slightly above average just because he’s home grown he has the ten quietest sacks you can imagine. Need more from a guy that we did indeed invest a lot on from an impact standpoint. Rashaan Evans, for example, made IMPACT plays in the playoffs. That’s what you hope to see from your growing, young and talented LBs. Landry was a ghost down the stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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