jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Steins Gate said: Yeah the $4M would have been better used elsewhere. I suspect Gruden has a man crush on Witten. seriously I wouldn’t doubt that or that fact that Gruden signed O'Leary because he’s a huge Jack Nicklaus fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, Steins Gate said: If Gruden starts running a lot of two TE sets, that is going to take someone off the field. Either the FB comes off the field (most likely) or a WR. I thought we were fine in our base sets last year. Jacobs was getting decent running lanes and the passing game was ok. Hopefully two TE sets don't change much. Ingold played 20% of the offensive snaps last year. Carrier, the 3rd TE, played 17%. There's no starting to run a lot of 2 TE sets because that's already what we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steins Gate Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 minute ago, oakdb36 said: Ingold played 20% of the offensive snaps last year. Carrier, the 3rd TE, played 17%. There's no starting to run a lot of 2 TE sets because that's already what we did. My bad. I thought Ingold played more snaps than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steins Gate Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: seriously I wouldn’t doubt that or that fact that Gruden signed O'Leary because he’s a huge Jack Nicklaus fan Gruden is like an impulsive shopper. He buys everything that excites him. I'm glad we have a GM that will talk him out of things occasionally. Mayock needs to do it more often though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 It's the running out of money that I have a problem with. Still want a bigger back to spell Jacobs, not 5 TE's...Maybe we thought the Patriots were going to beat us to them. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 If we left Gruden in charge he’d make ever “just need one more piece to contend” type signing and trade, not to mention he’d be trading 2030 1st to get a 6th round QB he loves that’d go undrafted, etc etc .... in the first year of a 10yr contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Does Witten have to be on the opening day roster for the Gtd $3.5m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I don’t know details but usually when it’s a guaranteed salary at signing it’s guaranteed if he makes team or not... so he’s 99% making the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: I don’t know details but usually when it’s a guaranteed salary at signing it’s guaranteed if he makes team or not... so he’s 99% making the team AB’s contract wasn’t guaranteed till he made the opening day roster hence why we cut him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 All veterans deals are guaranteed once they’re on the roster week 1. Guaranteed salaries usually are guaranteed at signing if they make the team or not. Example when we signed breno giacomini and he got cut but we still had to pay him 1.0m salary and .3m work out bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jimkelly02 said: All veterans deals are guaranteed once they’re on the roster week 1. Guaranteed salaries usually are guaranteed at signing if they make the team or not. Example when we signed breno giacomini and he got cut but we still had to pay him 1.0m salary and .3m work out bonus. Didn’t Giacomini get a $1m signing bonus not salary? His salary was $3m. Edited March 22, 2020 by Dessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, Dessie said: Didn’t Giacomini get a $1m signing bonus not salary? His salary was $3m. You may be right about that one. Sorry I was posting while running errands and not thinking. but if you look at any FA’s deals with a guaranteed salary on OTC it shows the dead cap it cut og that Amount and no cap savings. im almost 100% certain even if Witten Is cut during camp were stuck with that cap hit, I really wish it wasn’t though! But the Guaranteed salary is just a spread out roster bonus basically. Vets wouldn’t be signing these deals unless they were guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BayRaider Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, RaidersAreOne said: Clicked off as soon as I saw JKS. I think many of these Youtubers do a great job, Kollman being my favorite. But not a fan of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: I thought it was a very good video. Witten can be a crafty target on short passes and in red zone. Maybe we can finally get some play action, roll outs to Witten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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