turtle28 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 So, we already have the future QB Thread which is great. Thanks for setting that up Lavar703, but I feel we need a separate thread to discuss not only possibly drafting a qb but also other positions because some of us - me in particular - are still hopeful the team and offense play well enough this season that Kirk wants to stay and the Redskins FO wants him back. Now, I won't deny that is a pipe dream, but a pipe dream I shall have! Lol ? So, for me, I want to keep the current young roster intact and have it continue to grow except for replacing Lauvao @ LG. Walterfootball projections: Round 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA Round 2: Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State Drafttek projections: Round 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA Round 2: Kendall Joseph, LB, Clemson I have to say I could go either way on each of these projections. I like them both. Now, I'm still hopeful that Kirk is back - yes I know most don't agree with me, but I'm hopeful - so I'd rather take a DL or ILB in round 1 and then come back in round 2 and take whatever we didn't take in round 1 or take an interior lineman to replace the departing Lauvao. Turtle's mock: Round 1: Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia The Redskins have a question mark about their future at QB but I'm still hopeful Kirk Cousins is back until he definitely isn't! The Redskins have two good ILBs right now but both are in their contract years. They both could be retained or could be let go and we do have Spaight developing well behind them but it would be nice to get a young talented and physical ILB again to have for hopefully the next decade. Kiser is a big, physical linebacker that would be a presence in the middle of the Redskins defense. Round 2: Billy Price, C/G, Ohio State Not only is there an almost certainly that Lauvao won't be retained - at least we all hope - Spencer Long is also a free agent and could command a decent sized contract if he continues to play at least average at center. Having to pay TWill, Moses and Scherff good money may mean that they don't want to spend too much to retain Long. It remains to be seen, I could go either way on retaining him. I think he can be upgraded and the upgrade could already be on our roster with Roullier and then drafting Price would solidify our interior OL. Round 3: Vita Vea, NT, Washington It goes without saying that since 2010 this entire forum has wanted the Redskins to draft a true NT within the first 4 rounds of the draft so we could have a dominant run defense, sadly, it still hasn't happened 7 years later. Even when Cofield was here, I think most had hoped they'd move him to DE - especially after Carriker & Bowen got hurt - and draft a true NT but ShanAllen didn't do it. Last year most wanted so many NT prospects and Vea's former teammate at Washington Elijah Qualls fell to the 6th round. I share mosts opinion that we shouldn't have traded up for Roullier. We should have stayed put to see if we could have gotten both Roullier & Qualls. Oh well, here is to hoping that the front office finally drafts a NT within the first four rounds of this draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTaylorsaPIMP Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I really only watch Clemson football and then the marquee match ups of the weekend. It's going to take me awhile to get a good grip on the Clemson players this year since there was so much turnover but they have about 3 Dlinemen that I know will be good NFL players and I still would love to add to our DLine. DT Christian Wilkins DE Clelin Ferrell DT Dexter Lawrence Wilkins is the safest pick and Lawrence has the highest upside. I'll keep you guys posted on the development as the season goes on but when watching Clemson, those are the 3 play Dlinemen to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 If we can get Derwin James that would be incredible. Otherwise I'm expecting a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckleyBoy Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Huge fan of Micah Kiser. Its an absolute shame what he does on defense for UVA gets minimized a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsean21 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Rosen!!!!! Trade every pick and get him. I'm kidding but I think this kid is going to be special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 23 hours ago, BuckleyBoy said: Huge fan of Micah Kiser. Its an absolute shame what he does on defense for UVA gets minimized a lot Hey, they tied their win total from last year already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 6:30 AM, turtle28 said: So, we already have the future QB Thread which is great. Thanks for setting that up Lavar703, but I feel we need a separate thread to discuss not only possibly drafting a qb but also other positions because some of us - me in particular - are still hopeful the team and offense play well enough this season that Kirk wants to stay and the Redskins FO wants him back. Now, I won't deny that is a pipe dream, but a pipe dream I shall have! Lol ? So, for me, I want to keep the current young roster intact and have it continue to grow except for replacing Lauvao @ LG. Walterfootball projections: Round 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA Round 2: Billy Price, G/C, Ohio State Drafttek projections: Round 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA Round 2: Kendall Joseph, LB, Clemson I have to say I could go either way on each of these projections. I like them both. Now, I'm still hopeful that Kirk is back - yes I know most don't agree with me, but I'm hopeful - so I'd rather take a DL or ILB in round 1 and then come back in round 2 and take whatever we didn't take in round 1 or take an interior lineman to replace the departing Lauvao. Turtle's mock: Round 1: Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia The Redskins have a question mark about their future at QB but I'm still hopeful Kirk Cousins is back until he definitely isn't! The Redskins have two good ILBs right now but both are in their contract years. They both could be retained or could be let go and we do have Spaight developing well behind them but it would be nice to get a young talented and physical ILB again to have for hopefully the next decade. Kiser is a big, physical linebacker that would be a presence in the middle of the Redskins defense. Round 2: Billy Price, C/G, Ohio State Not only is there an almost certainly that Lauvao won't be retained - at least we all hope - Spencer Long is also a free agent and could command a decent sized contract if he continues to play at least average at center. Having to pay TWill, Moses and Scherff good money may mean that they don't want to spend too much to retain Long. It remains to be seen, I could go either way on retaining him. I think he can be upgraded and the upgrade could already be on our roster with Roullier and then drafting Price would solidify our interior OL. Round 3: Vita Vea, NT, Washington It goes without saying that since 2010 this entire forum has wanted the Redskins to draft a true NT within the first 4 rounds of the draft so we could have a dominant run defense, sadly, it still hasn't happened 7 years later. Even when Cofield was here, I think most had hoped they'd move him to DE - especially after Carriker & Bowen got hurt - and draft a true NT but ShanAllen didn't do it. Last year most wanted so many NT prospects and Vea's former teammate at Washington Elijah Qualls fell to the 6th round. I share mosts opinion that we shouldn't have traded up for Roullier. We should have stayed put to see if we could have gotten both Roullier & Qualls. Oh well, here is to hoping that the front office finally drafts a NT within the first four rounds of this draft! Not bad, but I dont see them drafting a NT. Especially with Ionaiddis playing like he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, mike23md said: Not bad, but I dont see them drafting a NT. Especially with Ionaiddis playing like he is. Entirely true, what do you think they'd do instead? Maybe an OT or QB here. I think they're going to lose Nsekhe and he'll be a starter somewhere next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I can't imagine Vita Vea lasting until the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: I can't imagine Vita Vea lasting until the third round. Walter has him pegged as a late 1st to as low as a 3rd. He probably won't be, but he is mostly just a run stuffer who doesn't add much pass rush and most of those guys haven't been going in round 1 anymore because of how much the league passes the ball now. Also, there was the surprise that his former teammate who is similar - Elijah Qualls - fell to round 6, when most scouts thought he'd go in round 2 or 3 and IMO Qualls offers more pass rush ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 Drafttek new 2 round Redskins draft: Round 1: Kendall Joseph, ILB, Clemson Round 2: Martez Ivey, OG, Florida https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round2.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Everything hinges on what happens with Kirk. If Kirk is re-signed then we go defense or receiver in the first. If Kirk is gone we're going QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 1:07 PM, turtle28 said: Drafttek new 2 round Redskins draft: Round 1: Kendall Joseph, ILB, Clemson Round 2: Martez Ivey, OG, Florida https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round2.asp I don't care how good Saquon Barkley is - there is NO scenario where you can draft a running back first overall in the modern NFL, especially when you don't have a QB. I love DraftTek and they way they work, but that is an absolute joke of a pick. The Niners picking second is an interesting thing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 On 9/20/2017 at 3:53 PM, lavar703 said: If we can get Derwin James that would be incredible. Otherwise I'm expecting a QB. He’s probably going top 10, so likely out of our range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Just now, MKnight82 said: He’s probably going top 10, so likely out of our range. DraftTek has him going 4th (which feels a bit high) to the Colts (which feels stupid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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