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Just now, Karnage84 said:

You mean MVP candidate Stafford? 

That didn't exactly translate into a bunch of wins. Almost like a healthy Stafford didn't fix the entire team, even playing at MVP candidate level. 

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Ngakuoe, Clowney, Thuney, Ryan, Trent Williams, Darby, Gordon, Freeman, some guys I think we could make move on. 
 

9 draft choices 

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32 minutes ago, Nnivolcm said:

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A healthy Stafford wouldn't have fixed the defense. 

Had we finished with 10 wins and Flowers performed the exact same, everyone would have called last season successful, and Flowers would have contributed to that success. That was your argument: the moves haven't made this team successful. Losing your starting QB has a huge hand to play in that.

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1 minute ago, Lionized said:

Ngakuoe, Clowney, Thuney, Ryan, Trent Williams, Darby, Gordon, Freeman, some guys I think we could make move on. 
 

9 draft choices 

Down for Clowney and going into the draft with options. Doesn't seem to be a big market for him. I would try to swoop in on him. 

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  • There is $18M that rolls over from last season. 
  • 2020 Cap: $198.2M
  • 2019 Cap Rollover: $18M
  • TOTAL 2020 CAP ROOM: $216M

So we're looking at $39M of free space with the additions of Collins, Vaitai, Daniel (but not Nicholas) and the subtractions of Wagner and Kennard.

+ Harmon = - $4.25M

+ Kearse = - $2.75M

- Slay = + $10.46M

NET = $42.46M

Less $12M for rookie contracts = $30.46M of available cap space

We could still see moves like the Slay trade (+$10M), Marvin Jones cut/restructure (+$6.5M), Decker trade/extension (+$10M) to open up more room for other moves. Not suggesting that these will actually happen but these would have the biggest impact on the cap. 

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7 minutes ago, Nnivolcm said:

That didn't exactly translate into a bunch of wins. Almost like a healthy Stafford didn't fix the entire team, even playing at MVP candidate level. 

This nonsense again. A 3-4-1 record with losses against two playoff teams. Our second have schedule was poor. Reaching 9-10 wins wasn't a stretch at all.

Ignoring the opponents played doesn't make that sound any better.

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Just now, ManeLine said:

Down for Clowney and going into the draft with options. Doesn't seem to be a big market for him. I would try to swoop in on him. 

As long as we don’t pay him top dollar I’m all for bringing him in. 

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1 minute ago, Karnage84 said:

 

 

  • There is $18M that rolls over from last season. 
  • 2020 Cap: $198.2M
  • 2019 Cap Rollover: $18M
  • TOTAL 2020 CAP ROOM: $216M

So we're looking at $39M of free space with the additions of Collins, Vaitai, Daniel (but not Nicholas) and the subtractions of Wagner and Kennard.

+ Harmon = - $4.25M

+ Kearse = - $2.75M

- Slay = + $10.46M

NET = $42.46M

Less $12M for rookie contracts = $30.46M of available cap space

We could still see moves like the Slay trade (+$10M), Marvin Jones cut/restructure (+$6.5M), Decker trade/extension (+$10M) to open up more room for other moves. Not suggesting that these will actually happen but these would have the biggest impact on the cap. 

So we have about 30M now after the slay deal that we can dedicate to FA 

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1 minute ago, Lionized said:

As long as we don’t pay him top dollar I’m all for bringing him in. 

I'd pay top dollar for a 2 year deal.  Don't need another long term deal but something short would be solid. 2 year 36-40M with half of it guaranteed sounds good to me. 

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Just now, Lionized said:

So we have about 30M now after the slay deal that we can dedicate to FA 

About that. Even if they wanted to hold onto $10M, that's still $20M of cap space they can work with to bring in other guys. 

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2 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said:

Had we finished with 10 wins and Flowers performed the exact same, everyone would have called last season successful, and Flowers would have contributed to that success. That was your argument: the moves haven't made this team successful. Losing your starting QB has a huge hand to play in that.

We didn't finish with 10 wins and we weren't on pace to finish with 10 wins when Stafford was injured. 

We did finished 3 wins, and we did tie for 2nd fewest sacks. We did have a non existent pass rush, especially when it mattered most. 

I'm not as confident as you are everyone's view on Flower's performance would shift so drastically if his play was exactly the same. 

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3 minutes ago, Karnage84 said:

About that. Even if they wanted to hold onto $10M, that's still $20M of cap space they can work with to bring in other guys. 

I got nothing else to today so bring in the transactions BQ

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3 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

I'd pay top dollar for a 2 year deal.  Don't need another long term deal but something short would be solid. 2 year 36-40M with half of it guaranteed sounds good to me. 

If you picked up Clowney, Young falls to 3, what would you do? All options are on the board.

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Posted (edited)

At least.... Lions didn't resign A'shawn Robinson to a ridiculous contract... 

Edited by SimbaWho

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1 minute ago, LionArkie said:

If you picked up Clowney, Young falls to 3, what would you do? All options are on the board.

Draft Young 

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