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15 minutes ago, LeotheLion said:

My drinking is almost exclusively tied to sports so it's way down for me. Probably minority though. 

I pretty much only buy it when I have friends or family over. And that's not happening right now, so way down for me too. 

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1 hour ago, rob_shadows said:

Are daily white House press conferences for the virus really necessary? I mean not much changes in a day... At some point it's just going to be the president coming to the podium saying "yes it's still here, no you can't come out, go away and leave me alone"

False. The US numbers go up exponentially each hr...let alone each day. Cleary we haven't taken this seriously enough...so yeah people need to be reminded daily how serious this is.

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4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

Loss of taste and smell the two most common symptoms of positive results looks like.  I’d post a link, but I’m afraid to now.  I’ve seen multiple sites report this.  Somebody please confirm.

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58 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

Loss of taste and smell the two most common symptoms of positive results looks like.  I’d post a link, but I’m afraid to now.  I’ve seen multiple sites report this.  Somebody please confirm.

I’ve seen it all over the place... 

 

if nothing else, be aware of your senses 

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first off the biggest key with australia's figures compared to your yanqui figures is that the vast majority of australia's cases at this stage are still imported and not from community transmission... whether it is from returning citizens or cruise ships (which tbf have been a huge problem for us here), about 60% to 80% of the new cases here are still imported. right now the policy is anyone coming from overseas gets escorted to a hotel and gets locked there for fourteen days... given this, all of the new overseas arrivals with the virus will not be transmitting it on our soil anymore. that is a plus.

second, response as a whole. in the more early stages of the outbreak our prime minister's response was to do what the donald did or what new zealand did the day after they did it; the former because our prime minister is a sycophant to the donald, the latter because new zealand is the only western country who's responded well to this the entire time. one thing that we do have that has helped uniformity in the response is a national cabinet of the prime minister and all the state premiers, meeting daily or every other day to discuss steps forward; this leads to cogency in the countrywide response and a unified effort, unlike over there where various levels of executive infighting (i'll leave it at that before i show my bernie card) have led to numerous incongruencies in the federal and state responses

now

next, we have a far better healthcare system than you guys. while testing was fairly inadequate at first the testing here has seriously ramped up, and importantly it's affordable to all and it has been always. we also have universal healthcare which has allowed everyone, no matter their economic status, to access our health system, and we don't have people worrying about financial considerations of needing to be admitted to hospital etc. private hospitals to their credit have also bought in, and opened their doors to covid patients even with no private insurance... combined with our already superior public hospital system it means that we have not had to worry (yet) or really even think about the triage considerations faced in italy or in the usa that have led to more deaths. the infrastructure of our healthcare system far beats yours and has allowed us to test at some of the highest per capita rates in the world and ensures that cases will get hospital beds and services if they need them, and we haven't seen situations like the hahnemann hospital situation over there that lead to a shortage... very lucky to live here

given we have a smaller population we also have superior ability to contact trace and lock down people who could risk spreading it even in our big cities

seasonality plays a role in the spread for sure but we also have a significantly better structured reponse than you guys, which means that we've been able to systematically get on top of it

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3/31/2020 MoL Scores:

Notable movements today include Austria breaking into the single digits and Brazil and France inching up.  France data looks like either a blip or change in reporting criteria, but the MoL will watch this over the coming days.

Tier 1: Outbreak under control, safe to begin relaxing social distancing measures

China: 1.0

South Korea: 2.2

Tier 2: New case growth is minimal suggesting social distancing is working, likely a few weeks away from breaking into tier 1

Italy: 8.1 (another good day in Italy, they've surely turned the corner)

Switzerland: 8.3 (Switzerland's down trend continues)

Austria: 9.7 (Austria gets into the single digit club, 3/26 looks like a blip and fair to say they are stabilizing between 500-1k new cases per day)

Australia: 11.9 (it does not currently look to the MoL like a serious outbreak is developing down under, numbers continue to be promising) 

@Shady Slim

Tier 3: Countries in this group that are showing increased MoLs have the potential to go deep into the danger zones, but countries with falling MoLs may only be a couple of days from tier 2 status and may have already peaked in gross # of new cases

Spain: 13.2 (now significant growth in daily cases in the past week, Spain is likely peaking)

Germany: 14.7

Netherlands: 14.8

Hong Kong: 15.4 (as mentioned yesterday the MoL believes this will trend down back towards Tier 2 and eventually Tier 1, inches down today) 

Iran: 18.2 (while case numbers have been much higher over the last week they have been relatively stable, may be travel related bump)

Brazil: 18.8 (a lot of cases today and Brazil inches up the rankings, I would not be surprised to see them in Tier 4 shortly although I don't believe they will see the same scale of outbreak as we've seen in the US and Europe)

India: 20.2 

France: 20.4 (today's case numbers were particularly bad, not sure if a blip or some change in criteria, the MoL is investigating) 

Israel: 20.4 

Portugal: 22.7 

Tier 4: Aggressive growth, still likely have not peaked in single day cases, and likely a week or two minimum from peak in deaths (however many of these countries are still slowing down)

Canada: 24.2 

UK: 24.7

USA: 25.1 

Belgium: 24.5 

Turkey: 56.1 

All Tier 4 countries inched down today, not surprising, this level of growth is not long term sustainable in the face of social distancing and diminishing growth rates.

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