oakdb36 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 i think Aghlor will be very helpful for us running these drag routes and getting YaC out the slot. His speed to hit the seam from the slot will be helpful in stretching the field. He’s the opposite of Renfrow. Imo it’s good to have both types of players. if the FA market has collapsed this bad maybe we can add another cheap WR like Perriman or Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Dirt cheap. I like this deal alot. Probably our Returner day one and a good depth option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 You can’t not like this signing at this price. He’s instantly our best returner and anything past this is a bonus. I think he’ll be a solid #4/5 WR for us pending the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: Veteran salary benefit means the cap hit is even less than that. Not sure how we got him to sign for so little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Not sure how we got him to sign for so little. The WR FA market in general has been horrible. Teams know this draft class is stacked. Great for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Veteran salary benefit means the cap hit is even less than that. Not sure how we got him to sign for so little. Yes, the cap hit is basically subsidized so as not to discourage teams from signing veterans due to higher minimum salary costs. But teams can get around this by offering a bonus. There are limits to the bonuses though. You can’t do minimum salary and $5M bonus and qualify for the cap relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 This is a very good signing for us. The cost was amazing and I think it at least limits the NEED to draft 2 WRs high. i think he’s going out compliment Renfrow in the slot nicely. He’s got the speed Renfrow does but he’s also a good route runner in his own right. And the drops seem like happen mostly deep passes where he doesn’t track the ball correctly. I think he’s going to be running a lot of slant and drag routes and will be a nice check down option as well as YAC guy on those slants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 17 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: This is a very good signing for us. The cost was amazing and I think it at least limits the NEED to draft 2 WRs high. i think he’s going out compliment Renfrow in the slot nicely. He’s got the speed Renfrow does but he’s also a good route runner in his own right. And the drops seem like happen mostly deep passes where he doesn’t track the ball correctly. I think he’s going to be running a lot of slant and drag routes and will be a nice check down option as well as YAC guy on those slants. Agreed, it’s so cheap that it’s a shot to nothing on a player who has shown a little talent but also as you say, we’re not forced into taking two receivers now. We can keep our powder dry and wait for a talent to fall to us in those middle rounds. I think we still need a quality WR to round out the top of the unit but we have a variety of skill sets with Williams, Renfrow, Ateman and Agholor which can compliment that #1 guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NYRaider Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 6:03 AM, big_palooka said: Agholor is clearly better than that lot. He's the #2 until an eventual rookie can unseat him. He has skills those others don't. If we take a rookie at #12 he's surely going to be slotted into one of the starting WR spots alongside Williams with Renfrow in the slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Perriman got 6M (can go up to 8M). Getting Agholor for 1M is such a steal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 5:57 PM, oakdb36 said: Veteran salary benefit means the cap hit is even less than that. Not sure how we got him to sign for so little. He had some key drop in some big games last year and it worries me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 https://www.crossingbroad.com/2020/03/dont-let-recency-bias-overshadow-nelson-agholors-fantastic-2017-super-bowl-season.html Quote This was Agholor’s third season, and a big reason for his success was his permanent move to the slot, where he was able to catch passes, turn, run, and chunk up YAC yardage. According to NFL NextGen Stats, Agholor led the Birds that season with 5.3 yards on average after the catch, a number higher than what statisticians predicted for him via the league’s x/YAC number. The presence of Torrey Smith, who stayed healthy that year, meant that Agholor was not shuffled inside and outside like he was in 2018 and 2019, when Mike Wallace and DeSean Jackson went down. The consistency in the slot allowed him to flourish while running routes that looked like this: Reading this, he sounds like a much better fit for Gruden's WCO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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