OneTwoSixFive Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jaegybomb said: Experience boost helps half the roster and hurts the other half every year though. It isn't a 50/50 split though. The Packers have been poster boys in the past for fielding one of the youngest teams in the league. The real problem I touched on my original post. Experience losses are definite (you already know how good the player was), while improvements due to added experience are uncertain. Bottom line is success comes down to drafting, FA losses and gains, quality of the coaches ..........and most of all, quality of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snackattack Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 better team, worse record is my prediction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jaegybomb said: Experience boost helps half the roster and hurts the other half every year though. Maybe for the twilight McCarthy Packers, when all we had was player development. In year 2 of a new system, I think we can count on more than that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Shanedorf said: Most were wrong last year and most will be wrong this year The highest vote totals in the preseason pole were for 10-11 wins, with 8-9 wins coming in 2nd place.Note: @incognito_man did say the pole didn't go high enough and he was correct https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/19826-how-many-wins-for-the-2019-packers/?tab=comments#comment-1907407 i even said "seriously". that's how serious I was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, Lodestar said: Maybe for the twilight McCarthy Packers, when all we had was player development. In year 2 of a new system, I think we can count on more than that. co-signed. We need plug-n-play guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Record-wise? Worse. As a football team? Better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Danneskjold Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Is there going to be a poll attached? I think the team will be about the same with regard to talent by the time everything is said and done, have more injuries, have worse record, will still make the playoffs. Since I am always wrong with my predictions, I had to post this to keep my record intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JQ1 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Because the Packers won the division, the play a “1st place schedule” right? So that’s Philly, SF, and NO right there. Pretty tough. Then they swept the North last year. Even when Green Bay was expected to win the division, sweeps are hard to come by. Not likely to happen again NFC and AFC South - Atlanta with Julio Jones, Tampa Bay should be better with Brady, and Camless Carolina. The AFC doesn’t have any real patsys, especially if it’s an early Autumn muggy, hot day in Jacksonville-like a couple years back. If the Packers can: shore up the middle of that defense via the draft and maybe acquire another couple FAs to defend the run add some fire power on offense Maintain that good locker room chemistry. Go at least 4-2 in the Division. They should be good, probably better than last year. But they may still lose a couple more games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 4 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We had 9.7 Pythagorean wins. The fanbase knew the caliber of team we had. Pythagorean ... ??? Sounds like a big frickin snake - Our fan base did know better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Going to be a game or two worse but better overall. Rest of the division is going to be worse and behind the Packers by 2 or more games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 8 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: We had 9.7 Pythagorean wins. The fanbase knew the caliber of team we had. Point differential in a vacuum has significant limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Point differential in a vacuum has significant limitations. I'm all ears if you have a better predictive method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm all ears if you have a better predictive method. It's somewhat useful for a full dataset because things tend to even out across 32 teams, but it's less useful for a single team because there is absolutely no context involved. Like, say, an injury to a star QB. It's not a very good snapshot, or predictor. It could be used as reference in defense of a stance when proper context is applied, as well. But need to be convinced why a particular team is prone reversion. It's a decent gut check to alert a deeper analysis, but not much more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: As of now we've downgraded at RT, TE, Slot CB, and probably ILB. We've upgraded: . . . We also have no reason to think that our ridiculous injury luck, or unsustainable record vs point differential will continue. On the positive side, we've got another year in the system and our young skill players will be another year older. Tramon hasn’t left the building and already counting it as a downgrade? im hoping for a jump from 2nd/3rd year guys improving the team as well as some rookies but tough to tell right now. Edited March 25, 2020 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Packers win total for last year on the Over/Under was 9 wins, tied with bears, vikes, cowboys, steelers, browns. Of that grouping, only the Packers and vikes exceeded their number. Of course the Packers swept the division including the pivotal match-up at minny in December https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/2019-nfl-win-totals-betting-odds-vegas We'll see what the number is for 2020, I'm guessing 10.0 Edited March 25, 2020 by Shanedorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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