Heinz D. Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, dll2000 said: Bears trade #50 to Detroit for #67, #85 & #182 I’d take that. Not sure Detroit would. Detroit isn't trading with us for any reason. Unless we offered them Mack for a seventh, or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, WindyCity said: If you're an undersized limited athlete your technique needs to be exceptional every rep to make up for those limitations. I think your maybe overestimating the size and athlete ability limitations Harris has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Heinz D. said: Detroit isn't trading with us for any reason. Unless we offered them Mack for a seventh, or something. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: Why? Trades with divisional rivals rarely happen. The teams don't want to help their direct opposition out in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: I think your maybe overestimating the size and athlete ability limitations Harris has. He looks athletic against Pac 12 defenses. His testing was downright bad. 6’1” is tiny. I am not sure you will find more than a tiny number of NFL OLmen who are thriving at that height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Heinz D. said: Trades with divisional rivals rarely happen. The teams don't want to help their direct opposition out in any way. The Lions trades with the Vikings last season in the 3rd...I don't see it being a stretch that they would do it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, WindyCity said: He looks athletic against Pac 12 defenses. His testing was downright bad. 6’1” is tiny. I am not sure you will find more than a tiny number of NFL OLmen who are thriving at that height. If he looked athletic against Pac 12 defences then I don't care how he tested...like I said the guy is a football player... There are certainly less OL in the NFL who are around that height...Shaq Mason stands out...but honestly 1 or 2" difference doesn't worry me...it's like when people said you had to be at least 6-2" to play QB...the NFL is changing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: If he looked athletic against Pac 12 defences then I don't care how he tested...like I said the guy is a football player... There are certainly less OL in the NFL who are around that height...Shaq Mason stands out...but honestly 1 or 2" difference doesn't worry me...it's like when people said you had to be at least 6-2" to play QB...the NFL is changing. My issue is it is changing the wrong direction for midget OLmen. Taller, longer, more athletic DLmen are moving inside as teams pass more and pass rush becomes more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 49 minutes ago, WindyCity said: My issue is it is changing the wrong direction for midget OLmen. Taller, longer, more athletic DLmen are moving inside as teams pass more and pass rush becomes more important. Being 303lbs is not being a midget...and like I said 1 or 2" really just doesn't matter to me especially at centre where leverage & footwork are so important...two things Harris excels at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Madmike90 said: Being 303lbs is not being a midget...and like I said 1 or 2" really just doesn't matter to me especially at centre where leverage & footwork are so important...two things Harris excels at. They aren’t starting a rookie at C with no offseason. He is starting out at RG. James Daniels flopped at it after a full season in the system. They aren’t handing the job to a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: They aren’t starting a rookie at C with no offseason. He is starting out at RG. James Daniels flopped at it after a full season in the system. They aren’t handing the job to a rookie. There have been plenty of rookie starters at centre...that isn't even an issue under normal circumstances...with what is going on things might be more difficult but there is so much unknown at this point we can't rule out or in anything...one thing is for sure...I would much rather draft a guy to play centre than keep Whitehair there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Madmike90 said: There have been plenty of rookie starters at centre...that isn't even an issue under normal circumstances...with what is going on things might be more difficult but there is so much unknown at this point we can't rule out or in anything...one thing is for sure...I would much rather draft a guy to play centre than keep Whitehair there. After the Daniels disaster my guess is no matter what you see Whitehair there. He is probably best there as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, WindyCity said: After the Daniels disaster my guess is no matter what you see Whitehair there. He is probably best there as well. You can't stop putting other guys there just because Daniels didn't work out...for me Whitehair is a RG all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Romen Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Madmike90 said: You can't stop putting other guys there just because Daniels didn't work out...for me Whitehair is a RG all day long. I agree, but him and Trubs have chemistry. With what seems to be a messed up/short off-season, I feel we have to keep chemistry going or else the whole offense will crap out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, The_Romen said: I agree, but him and Trubs have chemistry. With what seems to be a messed up/short off-season, I feel we have to keep chemistry going or else the whole offense will crap out. I don't reckon that is going to matter with Tru on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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