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Who is the biggest surprise/reach in the 1st round?

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Delpit definitely regressed (partially because of injury) in 2019.  His stock was down before the combine, where he ran slow.

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4 hours ago, sp6488 said:

Penny and Alualu are great examples, but I don't think Bortles particularly fits here. He was a bust in Jax, but nobody was shocked when he was drafted highly, let alone in the first round.

I think Denzel Mims could surprise some people and sneak into the 1st round.

At this point I would be surprised if Mims doesn't go in the first.

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14 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

I feel like Denzel Mims could go a lot higher than expected. I think there’s a strong possibility he’s the 4th receiver taken and could possibly go top 20 (Raiders at 19 if they pass on receiver early). 

Beat me to it. Thanks for that.

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I think Ezra Cleveland goes before some of the OTs who are rated higher in the consensus.  We've seen this in the past, c.f. in 2019 Tytus Howard going before Taylor, Ford, and Little.

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14 hours ago, SmittyBacall said:

I feel like Denzel Mims could go a lot higher than expected. I think there’s a strong possibility he’s the 4th receiver taken and could possibly go top 20 (Raiders at 19 if they pass on receiver early). 

I personally feel he deserves to be the 4th receiver taken. Him and Jefferson are super close for me.

Ezra Cleveland is the guy for me though.

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5 minutes ago, .Buzz said:

I personally feel he deserves to be the 4th receiver taken. Him and Jefferson are super close for me.

They’re pretty much interchangeable to me depending on what you’re looking for - though Mims’ role is more valuable in my opinion. If you want a boundary receiver with upside, take Mims. If you want a uber-reliable slot guy, take Jefferson. 

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I don't appreciate you guys listing future Eagles 3rd round picks Logan Wilson and Alton Robinson.

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Going off the current draft simulators.... Reagor and Hamler are two guys that keep going in the first that I don't think belong there. Reagor to me is a second round talent in a non loaded year. 

Hamler I don't think I'd take in the second round even. He's tiny for the nfl, without a solid frame even, body catches too often, and I don't have objective combine metrics for his speed and agility (40 and 3 cone) nor do I see the objective complete outlier level game breaking speed or agility that would make me go out on a limb for a guy like that. 

 

The flip side of that coin, is draft sims almost always put Jonathan Taylor outside the first round, and I think he should absolutely go in the back half of the first. He's not a Saquon Barkley but he is good enough to warrant getting him locked into a 5 year contract. 

I'd close by saying, I'm buying the Mims hype, hard. I think he's a top 15 talent this draft, and would be a sure fire top 10 guy in a draft that wasn't just loaded with bigger names from better programs. 

Edited by Epyon

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20 hours ago, Jeezla said:

I don't appreciate you guys listing future Eagles 3rd round picks Logan Wilson and Alton Robinson.

You can’t hop on my Logan Wilson train when you’ve been slobbering over Woodward for so long. Go back to him.

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4 hours ago, Counselor said:

You can’t hop on my Logan Wilson train when you’ve been slobbering over Woodward for so long. Go back to him.

We need 2 LB's, so we're getting Wilson and Woodward. You can have Malik Harrison.

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7 minutes ago, Jeezla said:

We need 2 LB's, so we're getting Wilson and Woodward. You can have Malik Harrison.

You weren't on the Wilson train until now. You are not worthy.

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6 minutes ago, Counselor said:

You weren't on the Wilson train until now. You are not worthy.

I've liked him dating back to the Senior Bowl. I just liked Woodward more. Then I read about Woodward's concussion history. Now I prefer Wilson at MLB and as a guy who can lead a D for several years, but I would still like Woodward as a WLB. You just can't really depend on Woodward to stay healthy. For that reason alone I prefer Wilson, but then you add the athleticism and size on top of it, it would be foolish to prefer Woodward.

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On 4/1/2020 at 9:40 AM, Texansfan713 said:

I can see a team reach and take Terrell Lewis early in round 1 based on potential.

I think it’s likely. 

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