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2020 REDSKINS FORUM DRAFT COMPETITION!! - WINNER ANNOUNCED!!


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Ok, time to start this back up!

Its time for... <drumroll please>

THE 2020 REDSKINS FORUM DRAFT COMPETITION!!

You guys should be familiar with the contest, but I will go over the rules just in case.

At each pick in the first round, you will select a:

  • Team
  • Position
  • Player

For that pick. 

SOME ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF

  1. I am ONLY going by the position listed at NFL.COM for that player. I don't care if you think that OT from that FCS school is going to play Guard in the NFL. If he's listed as OT on NFL.COM, then if you list him as a Guard, you will only get credit for the player and not the position. Again...this is important. Because in the past this was the difference between someone winning and someone coming in 2nd in the competition. I'm not going to try to do judgement calls on if you're right about his projection. Similarly, if he's listed as OLB and you think he will be moved inside to ILB, don't list him as ILB or LB if NFL.COM does not have him listed as that position. I hope I've been clear.
  2. Only one entry per person
  3. You can change your entry as many times as you'd like. However, you MAY NOT enter or change your entry after the draft has started. I will lock this whole thing once it starts. But in the off chance that I don't get to it right then, it means any entry or change to an entry... AFTER 8pm ET on Thursday April 22, 2020 ... will be disqualified. I'm serious about this rule as there have been some disqualifications in the past for this. Don't do it!
  4. All questions will be answered in a special FAQ post.
  5. Moderator has final call on deciding any unforeseen issue.

SCORING

The scoring works as follows:

Basic

  • Correct Team = 2 points
  • Correct Position = 3 points
  • Correct Player = 5 points

So if you had the Redskins at #2 and you picked Redskins, DE Chase Young (NOTE - HE IS NOW LISTED AS DE!!) and it was indeed Young, you would get a total of 10 points (x any modifiers - which at pick 2 is "x1" - see below)

If you identified the Redskins making the 2nd pick and had them selecting LB Isaiah Simmons and they selected another LB instead, you would only get 5 points (before modifiers)

But here is where the scoring gets interesting.

MODIFIERS

It is sometimes easier to pick the first 5 picks in the first round than figure out who is going to trade down in (or trade back up into) the round.

So we weight the picks with a multiplier. The multiplier is as follows:

  • Picks 1-5  =  x1
  • Picks 6-10 = x2
  • Picks 11-15 = x3
  • Picks 16-24 = x4
  • Picks 25-32+ = x5

So if you correctly guess all three variables (team, position, player) at pick 5  it would get you only 10 points (10x1).

But getting it right at pick 32 nets you 50 points (10x5).

REDSKINS PICK (Special Scoring)

Regardless of where the Redskins pick, we will still score it.

But this pick is scored differently. We score it regardless of where it is.

So if you have the Redskins picking at #2 and they trade down to #6 we will score it and add to your total.

So let's say you have at #6

  • Redskins 
  • WR
  • Jerry Jeudy

And they do, then you get 10pts x the modifier of x2 for 20 points.

But lets say the Redskins trade down to #32.

Well, unless the #2 pick is a WR or Jeudy, you will get ZERO points at that pick at #2.

But...

If at #32, they pick Jeudy, then you get credit for WR and Jeudy (so 8 points). 8pts x5 = 40 pts

But if at #32, the Redskins take WR Lamb, you will only get 3 points (for WR). This will also be available for modifiers as well just in case you had the Chiefs picking a WR at #32. So it would be 3pts x 5 for 15 points. This total would then be available for a bonus if you correctly pick where they end up taking their first pick (see below)

 

REDSKINS PICK BONUS

Ok, so there should be something extra for knowing what our favorite team does, right? What if we know they will stand pat at #2? What if the Redskins trade down and you correctly call it? Well, then you're in luck!!

If you correctly pick where they end up taking their first pick (even if they stay put at #13 or even if its the 2nd round), then your results for that draft pick are at an additional 20 point modifier in added to any other modifiers applied above.

So if you have the Redskins trading down to pick #23 and you get all 3 variables right the scoring is as follow

  1. Team/Position/Player = 10
  2. Modifier = x4
  3. Redskins Pick Bonus = 20 points

So you'd get 60 points for that correct pick!!

NOTE--> If the Redskins trade out of the 1st round completely and don't pick until the 2nd round we will still score that pick and add it to your total. It just will delay the results of the competition.

TIEBREAKERS

We've had to do tiebreakers in the past. The tiebreakers work as follows (in this order):

  1. The entry that has the most completely correct picks (all three variables correct) wins.
  2. The entry that got the most points from the Redskins pick (wherever the pick was made)
  3. Pick a number from 1-20. Closest wins
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The 2019 winner was @mike23md he is the reigning champ!

I will attempt to go back through my posts to find the other winners. I used to have them in an excel file, but sadly I have lost that file.

 

UPDATE:

Sorry fellas. I did the calculations on Saturday night once the entire draft was completed. And then promptly forgot to post them yesterday. Thanks @MKnight82 for the reminder.

So without further gilding the lily, here are the results in reverse order:

Place / Person / Points

15 - @aceinthehouse - 189

14 - @daskins - 257

13 - @e16bball - 266

12 - @Slappy Mc - 276

11 - @mike23md - 278 (sorry no repeat for you buddy)

10 - @Dutch Redskins fan - 288

9 - @HTTRDynasty - 298

8 - @Skinsin2013 - 308

7 - @MikeT14 - 311

6 - @turtle28 - 313

5 - @PSID412 - 319

4 - @Thaiphoon - 320 (I swear, the highest I've gotten is 3rd place. I usually end up right here @4)

3 - @MKnight82 - 323

2- @Doc Draper  -362

....

And the 2020 Redskins Forum Draft Competition winner is.....

1 - @bigdog44 --> with 396 points!

 

Congrats man. Like I said before I'll try to save this post and then do some digging and add the past winners here so I can keep an historical record of the competition!

Thank you to everyone who participated!

Now...if I could just win my own danged competition, just once!!

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Gonna restate this here:

I am ONLY going by the position listed at NFL.COM for that player. I don't care if you think that OT from that FCS school is going to play Guard in the NFL. If he's listed as OT on NFL.COM, then if you list him as a Guard, you will only get credit for the player and not the position. Again...this is important. Because in the past this was the difference between someone winning and someone coming in 2nd in the competition. And one year people put "Roquan Smith LB" instead of "ILB"

I'm not going to try to do judgement calls on if you're right about a player's projection to his NFL position. Similarly, if he's listed as OLB and you think he will be moved inside to ILB, don't list him as ILB or LB if NFL.COM does not have him listed as that position. I hope I've been clear.

 

TL:DR --> ONLY USE THE POSITION LISTED AT NFL.COM FOR THE PLAYER OR MISS OUT ON POINTS!!!

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1. Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow, QB

  2. Washington Redskins - Chase Young, DE

  3. Detroit Lions, Jeffery Okudah, CB

  4. New York Giants   Tristan Wirfs, T                                  

  5. Miami Dolphins - Justin Herbert, QB

  6. LA Chargers - Tua Tagovailoa, QB 

  7. Carolina Panthers - Derrick Brown, DT  

  8. Atlanta Falcons (TRADE - via Cardinals) - Javon Kinlaw, DT  

  9. Jacksonville Jaguars - CJ Henderson, CB

10. Cleveland Browns -   Isaiah Simmons, LB

11. New York Jets - Andrew Thomas, T 

12. Las Vegas Raiders - CeeDee Lamb, WR

13. San Francisco 49ers - Henry Ruggs III, WR         

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -  Jedrick Wills, T

15. Denver Broncos - Jerry Jeudy, WR

16. Arizona Cardinals (TRADE - via Falcons) - Kenneth Murray, LB

17. Dallas Cowboys - K'Lavon Chaisson, EDGE

18. Miami Dolphins - Mekhi Becton, T    

19. Las Vegas Raiders -  Patrick Queen, LB                                   

20. Jacksonville Jaguars -  Xavier McKinney, S                

21. Philadelphia Eagles - Justin Jefferson, WR

22. Minnesota Vikings -   AJ Terrill, CB                  

23. New England Patriots -   Jordan Love, QB

24. Cleveland Browns (TRADE - via Saints) - Ezra Cleveland, T                              

25. Minnesota Vikings - Austin Jackson, T     

26. Miami Dolphins -    D'Andre Swift, RB                                                

27. Seattle Seahawks -   Jonathan Taylor, RB                 

28. Baltimore Ravens - Yetur Gross-Matos, EDGE 

29. Tennessee Titans - Isaiah Wilson, T

30. Green Bay Packers -  Denzel Mims, WR    

31. San Francisco 49ers - Cesar Ruiz, C

32. Kansas City Chiefs - Trevon Diggs, CB             

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1. Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU

2. Redskins: Chase Young, DL, OSU

3. Lions: Jeff Okudah, CB, OSU

4. Giants: Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson 

5. Dolphins, Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

6. Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon

7. Panthers: Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn

8. Cardinals: Javon Kinlaw, DL, South Carolina 

9. Jaguars: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida

10. Browns: Jedrick Willis, OL, Alabama 

11. Jets: Tristan Wirfs, OL, Iowa 

12. Raiders: Jerry Jeudy, WR Alabama

13. 49ers: Cee Dee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma 

14. Bucs: Andrew Thomas, OL, Georgia 


15. Broncos: Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama

16. Falcons: K’Lavon Chaisson, DL, LSU

17. Cowboys: Christian Fulton, CB, LSU

18. Dolphins: Mekhi Becton, OL, Louisville

19. Raiders: Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma 

20. Jags: AJ Epenesa, DL, Iowa

21. Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

22. Vikings: Yetur Gross Mastos, DL, Penn State 

23. Patriots: Jordan Love, QB, Utah State

24. Saints: Patrick Queen, LB, LSU

25. Vikings: Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson

26. Dolphins: Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama

27. Seahawks: Curtis Weaver, DL, Boise State 

28. Ravens: Cesar Ruiz, OL, Michigan 

29. Titans: Joshua Jones, OL, Houston

30. Packers: Chase Claypool, WR, ND

31. 49ers: Ross Blacklock, DL, TCU

32. Chiefs: JK Dobbins, RB, OSU

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  1. Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Burrow, QB, LSU

  2. Washington Redskins - Chase Young, DL, Ohio State

  3. Los Angeles Chargers - (from Detroit) - Tua Tagavialoa, QB, Alabama 

  4. New York Giants - Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson

  5. Miami Dolphins - Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon

  6. Detroit Lions (from Chargers) - Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn

  7. Carolina Panthers - Jeffery Okudah, CB, Ohio State

  8. Arizona Cardinals - Jedrick Wills, OL, Alabama

  9. Jacksonville Jaguars - Javon Kinlaw, DL, South Carolina

10. Cleveland Browns - Andrew Thomas, OL, Georgia

11. New York Jets - Tristan Wirfs, OL, Iowa

12. Las Vegas Raiders - CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma

13. Denver Broncos (from San Fran) - Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Mekhi Becton, OL, Louisville

15. San Francisco 49ers (from Denver) - Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama

16. Atlanta Falcons - C.J. Henderson, CB, Florida

17. Dallas Cowboys - K'Lavon Chaisson, LB, LSU

18. Miami Dolphins - Josh Jones, OL, Houston

19. Las Vegas Raiders - Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama

20. Jacksonville Jaguars - Xavier McKinney, S, Alabama

21. Philadelphia Eagles - Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU

22. Minnesota Vikings - Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor

23. New England Patriots - Jordan Love, QB, Utah State

24. New Orleans Saints - Jalen Raegor, WR, TCU

25. Minnesota Vikings - Yetur Gross-Matos, DL, Penn State

26. Miami Dolphins - Antoine Winfield, S, Minnesota

27. Seattle Seahawks - Jeremy Chinn, S, Northern Illinois

28. Baltimore Ravens - Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma

29. Tennessee Titans - Patrick Queen, LB, LSU

30. Green Bay Packers - Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson

31. San Francisco 49ers - A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson

32. Kansas City Chiefs - Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah  

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1)Bengals= Chase Young--DE--Ohio St.

TRADE 2)Jaguars= Joe Burrow--QB--LSU (Jaguars trade 1st Rd -#9 & #20, 3rd rd-#9 & 2021 1st & DE Yannick Ngakoue for #2 overall & OT Trent Williams.

TRADE 3)Raiders= Tua Tagovailoa--QB--Alabama (Raiders trade 1st rd -#12 & #19, 3rd rd- #16 & 2021 1st for Lions 1st rd- #3 overall & 2nd rd- #3)

4)Giants= Derrick Brown--DT-- Auburn

5)Dolphins= Jedrick Wills--T--Alabama

6)Chargers= Justin Herbert--QB--Oregon

7)Panthers= Isaiah Simmons--LB--Clemson

8)Cardinals= Tristan Wirfs--T--Iowa

9)Redskins= Jeff Okudah--CB--Ohio St.

10)Browns= Mekhi Becton --T--Louisville

11)Jets= Jerry Jeudy--WR--Alabama

12) Lions= K'lavon Chaisson--EDGE--LSU

13)49ers= Ceedee Lamb--WR--Oklahoma

14)Bucs= Henry Ruggs--WR--Alabama

TRADE 15)Dolphins= Jevon Kinlaw--DT--S. Carolina (Miami trades 1st rd-#18 & 3rd Rd pick #6 to Broncos for #15)

16)Falcon= Travon Diggs--CB--Alabama

17)Cowboys= C. J. Henderson--CB--Florida

18)Broncos=Leviska Shenault Jr.--WR--Colorado

19)Lions=Yetur Gross-Matos--EDGE--Penn St.

20)Redskins= Andrew Thomas--T--Georgia

21)Eagles= Tee Higgins--WR--Clemson

22)Vikings=Patrick Queen--LB--LSU

23)Patriots= A.J. Epenesa--DE--Iowa

24)Saints= Jaylon Johnson--CB-- Utah

25)Vikings= Cesar Ruiz--C--Michigan

26)Dolphins= Jordan Love--QB--Utah St.

27)Seahawks= D'andre Swift--RB--Georgia

28)Ravens= Jeff Gladney--CB--TCU

29)Titans= Michael Pittman--WR--USC

30)Packers= Zack Baun--LB--Wisconsin

31)49ers= Brandon Aiyuk--WR--Arizona St.

32)Chiefs=Ross Blacklock--DT--TCU

 

Yea, I know I won't win. But it sure is fun as hell! 😜

 

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Doc reserved. 

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects


1. Bengals Burrow QB

2. Redskins Young DE HOF LT2.0 Predator

3. Dolphins Tua QB 

4. Giants Wirfs T

5. Lions Okudah CB

6. Chargers Herbert QB

7. Panthers Simmons LB

8. Cardinals Thomas T

9. Jaguars Brown DT

10. Browns Wills T

11. Jets Becton T

12. Raiders Ruggs WR

13. San Fran Henderson CB

14. Tampa Jeudy WR

15. Broncos Lamb WR

16. Falcons Kinlaw DT

17. Cowboys Chaisson Edge

18. Dolphins Jackson T

19. Raiders Terrell CB

20.Jaguars Diggs CB

21. Eagles Mims  WR

22. Vikings Fulton CB

23. Patriots Epenesa DE

24. Saints Jefferson WR

25. Vikings Gladney CB

26.  Lions Queen LB 

27. Seahawks Dobbins RB

28. Ravens Ruiz C

29. Titans Gross-Matos Edge

30 Packers Higgins WR

31. SF Johnson CB

32. KC Taylor RB 

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1. Bengals - Joe Burrow - QB

2. Redskins - Chase Young - DE

  3. Dolphins (From Lions) - Jedrick Wills - T

  4. Giants - Tristan Wirfs - T

  5. Lions (From Dolphins) - Jeffery Okudah - CB

  6. Chargers - Justin Herbert - QB

  7. Panthers - Derrick Brown - DT

  8. Cardinals - Isaiah Simmons - LB

  9. Jaguars - Henry Ruggs III - WR

10. Browns - Andrew Thomas - OT

11. Broncos ( From Jets) - Jerry Jeudy - WR

12. Raiders - CeeDee Lamb - WR

13. 49ers - Javon Kinlaw - DT

14. Buccaneers - Mekhi Becton - T

15. Jets (From Broncos) - K'lavon Chaisson - EDGE

16. Falcons - C.J. Henderson - CB

17. Patriots (From Cowboys) - Tua Tagovailoa - QB

18. Dolphins - Xavier McKinney - S

19. Raiders - A.J. Terrell - CB

20. Jaguars - Trevon Diggs - CB

21. Eagles - Patrick Queen - LB

22. Vikings - Justin Jefferson - WR

23. Cowboys (From Patriots) - Cesar Ruiz - C

24. Saints - Kennith Murray - LB

25. Redskins (From Vikings) - Josh Jones - T 

26. Dolphins - D'Andre Swift - RB

27. Seahawks - Zach Baun - LB

28. Ravens - Yatur Gross-Matos - EDGE

29. Titans - Jaylon Johnson - CB

30. Packers - Tee Higgins - WR

31. Colts (From 49ers) - Jordan Love - QB

32. Chiefs - Jeff Gladney - CB

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Come for the draft competition, stay for the reading NON-comprehension.

Of the 3 drafts posted so far, only ONE has Chase Young's position correct.

Guys...take a look at the third post where I say that I am ONLY going by the position descriptions listed at NFL.COM

Here's Chase Young's:

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OHIO STATE
7.37 DL Junior

 

 

So listing him as EDGE, or DE is not going to get you points for that pick if we pick him.

You've now been warned Twice to follow NFL.COM's position designations.

Make your list. Then check it at NFL.COM and adjust to what they have. Please.

Again, one year someone lost because they listed someone as LB (was not listed as this on NFL.COM), instead of ILB (as was listed on NFL.COM)

Not my fault if you fail to read directions.

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2 hours ago, turtle28 said:

@Thaiphoon Seeing as you're being such a stickler on what the position is called on NFL.com - seems tedious to me - in order to help posters with that, could post what list you are using? That would make it easier.

Literally in the third post of this thread. 

And it's not being tedious. I'm not going to hunt down and argue with you if the LB is an OLB, DE, or ILB.

If you want to put Chase Young down, then use the position description used on NFL.COM.

But since you want it even easier, more specifically here:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects

As I go through the picks, that ^^^ is the one I'm going to reference.

 

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1. Bengals: Joe Burrow, QB

2. Redskins: Chase Young, DE

3. Lions: Jeff Okudah, CB

4. Giants: Tristan Wirfs, T

5. Dolphins: Tua Tagovailoa, QB

6. Chargers: Justin Herbert, QB

7. Panthers: Isaiah Simmons, LB

8. Cardinals: Derrick Brown, DT

9. Jaguars: CJ Henderson, CB

10. Browns: Andrew Thomas, T

11. Jets: Jedrick Willis, T

12. Raiders: Jerry Jeudy, WR

13. 49ers: Cee Dee Lamb, WR

14. Bucs: Mekhi Becton, T

15. Broncos: Henry Ruggs III, WR

16. Falcons: Javon Kinlaw, DT

17. Cowboys: K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE

18. Dolphins: Josh Jones, T

19. Raiders: Kenneth Murray, LB

20. Jags: Patrick Queen, LB

21. Eagles: Justin Jefferson, WR

22. Vikings: Yetur Gross-Mastos, EDGE

23. Patriots: AJ Epenesa, DE

24. Saints: Tee Higgins, WR

25. Vikings: Kristian Fulton, CB

26. Dolphins: Xavier McKinney, S

27. Seahawks: Austin Jackson, T

28. Ravens: Zach Baun, LB

29. Titans: Jordan Elliot, DT

30. Packers: Denzel Mims, WR

31. 49ers: Ross Blacklock, DT

32. Chiefs: AJ Terrell, CB

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