tannenballs Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 1. CHASE YOUNG DE OHIO STATE 2. JOE BURROW QB LSU 3. JEFF OKUDAH CB OHIO STATE 4. JERRY JEUDY WR ALABAMA 5. ISAIAH SIMMONS SS/LB CLEMSON 6. DERRICK BROWN DT AUBURN 7. TUA TAGOVAIOLA QB ALABAMA 8. CJ HENDERSON CB FLORIDA 9. JOSH JONES OT HOUSTON 10. CEEDE LAMB WR OKLAHOMA 11. ANDREW THOMAS OT GEORGIA 12. JAVON KINLAW DT SOUTH CAROLINA 13. HENRY RUGGS WR ALABAMA 14. TRISTAN WIRFS OG/OT IOWA 15. KENNETH MURRAY LB OKLAHOMA 16. JUSTIN JEFFERSON WR LSU 17. NOAH IGBINOGHENE CB AUBURN 18. JEDRICK WILLS OT ALABAMA 19. XAVIER MCKINNEY SS ALABAMA 20. JORDAN LOVE QB UTAH STATE 21. MATT HENNESSY OC TEMPLE 22. MATT PEART OT UCONN 23. CESAR RUIZ OC MICHIGAN 24. K’LAVON CHAISSON DE/OLB LSU 25. TREVON DIGGS CB ALABAMA 26. KYLE DUGGER SS LENOIR-RHYNE 27. JUSTIN HERBERT QB OREGON 28. MEKHI BECTON OT LOUSIVILLE 29. JONATHAN TAYLOR RB WISCONSIN 30. DE’ANDRE SWIFT RB GEORGIA 31. YETUR GROSS-MATOS DE PENN STATE 32. KRISTIAN FULTON CB LSU 33. JALEN REAGOR WR TCU 34. DENZEL MIMS WR BAYLOR 35. JK DOBBINS RB OHIO STATE 36. JR REED SS GEORGIA 37. LLOYD CUSHENBERRY OC LSU 38. JORDAN ELLIOTT DT MISSOURI 39. ROSS BLACKLOCK DT TCU 40. TEE HIGGINS WR CLEMSON 41. MICHAEL PITTMAN WR USC 42. AJ EPENESA DE IOWA 43. JEFF GLADNEY CB TCU 44. ZACK BAUN OLB WISCONSIN 45. CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE RB LSU 46. PATRICK QUEEN LB LSU 47. AUSTIN JACKSON OT USC 48. TERRELL BURGESS FS/NB UTAH 49. LAVISKA SHENAULT WR COLORADO 50. TYLER BIADASZ OC WISCONSIN 51. LOGAN WILSON LB WYOMING 52. JUSTIN MADUBUIKE DT TEXAS A&M 53. JAYLON JOHNSON CB UTAH 54. K’VON WALLACE SS/NB CLEMSON 55. ADAM TRAUTMAN TE DAYTON 56. ANTONIO GANDY-GOLDEN WR LIBERTY 57. VAN JEFFERSON WR FLORIDA 58. EZRA CLEVELAND OT BOISE STATE 59. JULIAN OKWARA OLB NOTRE DAME 60. COLE KMET TE NOTRE DAME 61. CAM AKERS RB FLORIDA STATE 62. JAMES MORGAN QB FIU 63. RAEKWON DAVIS DE/DT ALABAMA 64. BRANDON JONES SS TEXAS 65. SHANE LEMEIUX OG OREGON 66. TERRELL LEWIS DE/OLB ALABAMA 67. BRYCE HALL CB VIRGINIA 68. DARRELL TAYLOR DE/OLB TENNESSEE 69. HARRISON BRYANT TE FAU 70. MALIK HARRISON LB OHIO STATE 71. SAAHDIQ CHARLES OT LSU 72. JONAH JACKSON OG OHIO STATE 73. CHASE CLAYPOOL WR NOTRE DAME 74. JAKE FROMM QB GEORGIA 75. LUCAS NIANG OT TCU 76. AJ TERRELL CB CLEMSON 77. ALEX HIGHSMITH OLB CHARLOTTE 78. ASHTYN DAVIS FS CAL 79. NEVILLE GALLIMORE DT OKLAHOMA 80. HUNTER BRYANT TE WASHINGTON 81. DAMON ARNETTE CB OHIO STATE 82. KJ HILL WR OHIO STATE 83. BRYAN EDWARDS WR SOUTH CAROLINA 84. JABARI ZUNIGA DE FLORIDA 85. JEREMY CHINN SS SOUTHERN ILLINOIS 86. GRANT DELPIT FS LSU 87. ISAIAH WILSON OT GEORGIA 88. BRANDON AIYUK WR ARIZONA STATE 89. MARLON DAVIDSON DE/DT AUBURN 90. ALEX TAYLOR OT SOUTH CAROLINA 91. PRINCE TEGA WANOGHO OT AUBURN 92. JUSTIN STRNAD LB WAKE FOREST 93. TREVIS GIPSON DE TULSA 94. BRADLEE ANAE DE UTAH 95. JONATHAN GREENARD OLB FLORIDA 96. BEN BREDESON OG MICHIGAN 97. LEKI FOTU DT UTAH 98. DAVON HAMILTON DT OHIO STATE 99. CAM CLARK OG CHARLOTTE 100. ALBERT OKWUEGBUNAM TE MISSOURI Edited April 2, 2020 by tannenballs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awsi Dooger Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Much appreciated. I always value your opinions. In a quick scan of that list quite a few guys higher than the norm. I knew you really liked Josh Jones. Two others who stood out above typical were JR Reed and the FIU quarterback. I'm intrigued by Reed and have been trying to make a case for him. The Dolphins have fared well with Georgia safeties, Reed looks the part for the modern NFL with the long arms and wingspan. I think the overaged aspect is dropping his rating, and logically so. He's 3 years older than some of these guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Josh Jones is your #1 overall OT? What in the world.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: Josh Jones is your #1 overall OT? What in the world.... Best pass protector in the draft. It was a close call between him and Andrew Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Formatting needs work, but not the end of the world. 1 hour ago, tannenballs said: Best pass protector in the draft. It was a close call between him and Andrew Thomas I mean, I can't imagine walking away and looking at this OT class and say he's at best the 4th best OT in the class. Down the road? Sure. Right now? Not a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Formatting needs work, but not the end of the world. I mean, I can't imagine walking away and looking at this OT class and say he's at best the 4th best OT in the class. Down the road? Sure. Right now? Not a chance. Sorry not sure what you mean Cwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, tannenballs said: Sorry not sure what you mean Cwood? Your cap locks button broken? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Your cap locks button broken? *CWood, what was your point about walking away with the 4th OT? Didn't understand your point. As for formatting, it's a lot to type out on my phone, so I just left caps lock on lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, tannenballs said: *CWood, what was your point about walking away with the 4th OT? Didn't understand your point. I don't see a real strong argument that he's better than Thomas, Wirfs, or Wills. I get the upside, but the floor is significantly lower than those three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I don't see a real strong argument that he's better than Thomas, Wirfs, or Wills. I get the upside, but the floor is significantly lower than those three. He only gave up 4 pressures on the season and dominated the Senior Bowl. I can see an argument for any of those guys, as I think all have Pro Bowl potential. I'm not going to pretend I'm some expert. That's just what I saw. Hope you're doing well in these times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awsi Dooger Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) That's very high on the Connecticut tackle Matt Peart. I noticed him when I attended a Connecticut/Massachusetts game in late 2018. It was played during a nor'easter so there was much more running than normal. Connecticut only threw the ball a handful of times all game. During all the scrums I saw that the right tackle had considerably more length and athletic ability than anyone else on that field. The reps really varied from play to play depending whether Peart had to extend or not. His arms are incredibly long but he didn't know what to do with them. In looking at the scouting reports from 2019 it looks like that is still an issue but he markedly improved this season. I didn't think I was looking at a first round guy. But there are always surprises at that position with long athletic upside guys shoved above some of the safer picks. Also I noted that Jacob Eason is absent from your rankings. I agree with that. Let him do whatever he wants as long as it isn't on the Dolphins. I don't want to suffer through a learning curve like that from a quarterback with no touch. HoboRocket had an excellent summary of Eason recently in the quarterback thread. Edited April 4, 2020 by Awsi Dooger 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullback Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Please remember that Josh Jones is 2 years older than the concensous top 4 OTs. That's significant enough in such a loaded class. Austin Jackson is among the youngest - if not the youngest - player in the whole draft and could be ranked ahead of Jones as well if you like him. I don't see much as much ceiling with Jones. And it's not that his floor is very high to start with - he needs some work as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Awsi Dooger said: That's very high on the Connecticut tackle Matt Peart. I noticed him when I attended a Connecticut/Massachusetts game in late 2018. It was played during a nor'easter so there was much more running that normal. Connecticut only threw the ball a handful of times all game. During all the scrums I saw that the right tackle had considerably more length and athletic ability than anyone else on that field. The reps really varied from play to play depending whether Peart had to extend or not. His arms are incredibly long but he didn't know what to do with them. In looking at the scouting reports from 2019 it looks like that is still an issue but he markedly improved this season. I didn't think I was looking at a first round guy. But there are always surprises at that position with long athletic upside guys shoved above some of the safer picks. Also I noted that Jacob Eason is absent from your rankings. I agree with that. Let him do whatever he wants as long as it isn't on the Dolphins. I don't want to suffer through a learning curve like that from a quarterback with no touch. @HoboRocket had an excellent summary of Eason recently in the quarterback thread. Aww, thanks. @tannenballs, I respect your views overall. I think that Josh Jones is definitely a top-20 prospect, so overall ranking isn't too far off from where I'd put him, though he's my OT5. My top 100 would probably have 18 or so tackles in it; this class is simply loaded at the position. The only OT that you have in the top-100 that I typically wouldn't include is Alex Taylor; I haven't scouted him specifically, though, so perhaps he's a good prospect. Do you see Washington OT Trey Adams as undraftable? He's easily a first-rounder based off his on-field play, but those injuries are insane. I love the respect that you're showing to James Morgan. He's legit, and I wouldn't blink if a team "reached" on him in the early third, or even second round. He was great in college and played fantastic football at the Shrine and then showed off a live-arm at the Combine. He really spins the ball when he throws it, but it's still a very catchable ball. One note is how seamlessly he transitioned at the Shrine practices with a group of pass-catchers that he'd never met before. He made them all look good, and they made him look good in return. Chemistry. That's a hugely important trait at the NFL level. I was also very impressed with his feel for receivers at the Combine. It only served to confirm what I saw at FIU; this guy is the real deal. He has good accuracy, good velocity, good range, throws a very catchable ball, has great size, and has experience in a pro scheme with spread concepts. That matches like 90% of NFL offenses these days, and the ones that it doesn't match are even more QB-friendly. He's charismatic and interviewed very well. There's not really a box that this guy doesn't check from a traits and intangibles standpoint. He doesn't have a whole lot of experience with big-time competition. His mobility is probably good enough, but doesn't project to be top-level in the NFL. Overall, I think he could be the guy in this class that surprises and ends up starting football games and being a competent NFL starting QB. He has the upside to be a top-12 or so QB. It gets me very frustrated when all these Twitter draftniks that chart passes include their top-8 draft-eligible QBs and have Nate Stanley, Steven Montez, or Brian Lewerke in their charts but don't even acknowledge Morgan's existence. Heck, it seems like even Shea Patterson has been more relevant to the media throughout the process. Morgan is better than all of those guys, though, and deserves more attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, HoboRocket said: Aww, thanks. @tannenballs, I respect your views overall. I think that Josh Jones is definitely a top-20 prospect, so overall ranking isn't too far off from where I'd put him, though he's my OT5. My top 100 would probably have 18 or so tackles in it; this class is simply loaded at the position. The only OT that you have in the top-100 that I typically wouldn't include is Alex Taylor; I haven't scouted him specifically, though, so perhaps he's a good prospect. Do you see Washington OT Trey Adams as undraftable? He's easily a first-rounder based off his on-field play, but those injuries are insane. I love the respect that you're showing to James Morgan. He's legit, and I wouldn't blink if a team "reached" on him in the early third, or even second round. He was great in college and played fantastic football at the Shrine and then showed off a live-arm at the Combine. He really spins the ball when he throws it, but it's still a very catchable ball. One note is how seamlessly he transitioned at the Shrine practices with a group of pass-catchers that he'd never met before. He made them all look good, and they made him look good in return. Chemistry. That's a hugely important trait at the NFL level. I was also very impressed with his feel for receivers at the Combine. It only served to confirm what I saw at FIU; this guy is the real deal. He has good accuracy, good velocity, good range, throws a very catchable ball, has great size, and has experience in a pro scheme with spread concepts. That matches like 90% of NFL offenses these days, and the ones that it doesn't match are even more QB-friendly. He's charismatic and interviewed very well. There's not really a box that this guy doesn't check from a traits and intangibles standpoint. He doesn't have a whole lot of experience with big-time competition. His mobility is probably good enough, but doesn't project to be top-level in the NFL. Overall, I think he could be the guy in this class that surprises and ends up starting football games and being a competent NFL starting QB. He has the upside to be a top-12 or so QB. It gets me very frustrated when all these Twitter draftniks that chart passes include their top-8 draft-eligible QBs and have Nate Stanley, Steven Montez, or Brian Lewerke in their charts but don't even acknowledge Morgan's existence. Heck, it seems like even Shea Patterson has been more relevant to the media throughout the process. Morgan is better than all of those guys, though, and deserves more attention. Yeah I think James Morgan could end up the steal of the draft. If you go back and watch Washington vs Alabama in the CFB Playoffs Adams looked like a top 10 pick. I just think the injuries really took away all his athletic ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannenballs Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) I've seen a few posters on this board talk highly about Logan Wilson. I have him at #51 but he has potential to be the best LB in the class Edited April 4, 2020 by tannenballs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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