Burn Notice (S1) Mafia: Game Over (UPDATED)

[theuntouchable]

3 hours ago, SwAg said:

Touch as:

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You are Special Agent Jason Bly, Special Investigator, Government-Aligned

Ability:  You may have one individual arrested and removed from the game at any time.  You cannot be eliminated by a Night Kill.

You are considered Town for the purpose of the ratio. 

You win by eliminating all threats to the Town, but cannot win with Michael Westen remaining in the game.

You have safe fake claims of Javier (Westen-Aligned), David (Westen-Aligned), and Anwar (Unlikely Allies-Aligned).

[theuntouchable]

Man you gotta be dizzy by now LMFAO 

[The Orca]

Touch: 

 

Orca:

[squire12]

40 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said:

We had no info whatsoever 

Your role just was never gonna be Westen aligned. 

@SwAg can confirm but it looks like you were actually unlikely ally aligned like we all believed ( @Heimdallr and @The Orca) but you were just told that you were Westen aligned 

What about the specific wording of my role makes you think that it looks like I was an unlikely ally?

[Pickle Rick]

10 minutes ago, squire12 said:

What about the specific wording of my role makes you think that it looks like I was an unlikely ally?

The fact a swag said we had a 50% chance to recruit 1 of the unlikely allies (you being one of the 2)

[squire12]

1 hour ago, The Orca said:

This game came down to wincons imo

The two best players in the game imo forgo their wincons to help town and a mafia quit (in a way forgoing his wincon) at the end. 

Please tell us which 2 best players forgo their wincons?

I will give you touch, but I can't find the other.

1 hour ago, The Orca said:

I was a key part in the deaths of 

2 mafia (Mwil and Mookie)

1 Indy (TLO)

2 Nontown (Touch and Counselor)

I dont think Touch would have claimed Counselor had a move if I didnt say he did. Which I think lead mafia (?) to kill him

I controlled the thread for almost the whole game, got people talking, forced convo with my info, moves, claims, etc. (So much inactivity at the beginning and middle)

Once the vote thing became apparent and eveyone tried it over and over I just used the game to see how I'd play when I'm not lynched just because or hit early because I am annoying. I went hard for town. Nailed Mwil, then TLO, Touch even though he will disagree, Counselor having a move, and Mookie

Made logical cases and connections to back up my info (reads)

Didnt go off the rails 

That was up until Touch was lynched

Townsided Orca

Rating: 10/10

After Touch died it really was, crap let's slow this down. 

I figured Touch was probably telling the truth on Malf, so the logical thing was Forge was scum with him, so I made the logical case against Squire and he was going to be lynched easily if Forge doesnt quit. 

Plan was scum would kill Wolf cause he wasnt protected

2-2. I vote with Forge which meant a double lynch at worse. Then its 1-1 going into night, I accept the contract. Either complete it or it's a double lynch and no on wins

It really was a thing of absolute genius. Couldnt account for a scum quitting when he wasnt going to be lynched lol

Scumsided Orca

Rating: 10/10

Did I win: No

Did I have fun: Absolutely, the back and forth with Mwil and Touch were a thing of beauty

Overall rating: 8/10 since I lost 

Thoughts: Would have been the best game I have played by far if Forge doesnt quit 

I'm sure most will disagree, but given I had no info other than the thread this is how I'd rate myself

@SwAg I look forward to your opposite view 

 

 

Orca, I will say your reads on mwil and tlo were quite good.  

You also did not have a wincon to play to, could not be voted or hit at night, which is meant you godd piss off any side, favor any side and face no repercussions.  No fear of being eliminated allows a lot more leeway.

 

[theuntouchable]

1 minute ago, squire12 said:

Please tell us which 2 best players forgo their wincons?

I will give you touch, but I can't find the other.

Orca, I will say your reads on mwil and tlo were quite good.  

You also did not have a wincon to play to, could not be voted or hit at night, which is meant you godd piss off any side, favor any side and face no repercussions.  No fear of being eliminated allows a lot more leeway.

 

I didn’t for-go my wincon at all. Had I hit racks with either of them, we wouldn’t have stood a chance. 
 

if I hit racks with the first one, counselor is immediately lynched and we don’t get pickle. 
 

if I hit racks with the second one, I’m immediately lynched and we don’t catch malf. 
 

I had to make sure town won first and foremost. 

[The Orca]

2 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Please tell us which 2 best players forgo their wincons?

I will give you touch, but I can't find the other.

Orca, I will say your reads on mwil and tlo were quite good.  

You also did not have a wincon to play to, could not be voted or hit at night, which is meant you godd piss off any side, favor any side and face no repercussions.  No fear of being eliminated allows a lot more leeway.

 

Yep. I really enjoyed getting to make reads that way. As opposed to worrying about getting policy lynched or dying first 2 days cause I'm annoying or getting votes in retaliation. I think it helped a lot

[squire12]

6 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said:

The fact a swag said we had a 50% chance to recruit 1 of the unlikely allies (you being one of the 2)

I am only going on the information I had directly stated in my pm.  The assumption being made in game was that Diego cruz had to be unlikely ally.  There was no information known to anyone that was the case.  

Did swag tell you that in your PM roles?

Looks to me he said it post game.

[Pickle Rick]

Just now, squire12 said:

I am only going on the information I had directly stated in my pm.  The assumption being made in game was that Diego cruz had to be unlikely ally.  There was no information known to anyone that was the case.  

Did swag tell you that in your PM roles?

Looks to me he said it post game.

No.  I know the show.  Diego Cruz was 100% NOT Westen aligned.  No way anyone creates a game that has him as Westen Aligned 

[The Orca]

5 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Please tell us which 2 best players forgo their wincons?

I will give you touch, but I can't find the other.

Orca, I will say your reads on mwil and tlo were quite good.  

You also did not have a wincon to play to, could not be voted or hit at night, which is meant you godd piss off any side, favor any side and face no repercussions.  No fear of being eliminated allows a lot more leeway.

 

I was treating myself as forgoing my wincon because I never accepted the contract and wasnt going to until the very end (still was up in the air if I would have even then)

[squire12]

2 minutes ago, The Orca said:

Yep. I really enjoyed getting to make reads that way. As opposed to worrying about getting policy lynched or dying first 2 days cause I'm annoying or getting votes in retaliation. I think it helped a lot

It was an interesting choice to not go for a wincon.

[Malfatron]

1 minute ago, squire12 said:

I am only going on the information I had directly stated in my pm.  The assumption being made in game was that Diego cruz had to be unlikely ally.  There was no information known to anyone that was the case.  

Did swag tell you that in your PM roles?

Looks to me he said it post game.

that conversion aspect was hidden

[squire12]

1 minute ago, The Orca said:

I was treating myself as forgoing my wincon because I never accepted the contract and wasnt going to until the very end (still was up in the air if I would have even then)

How do you forgo a wincon you never elected to take on?  That is not forgoing one , that is not accepting the option to even have 1.

[squire12]

3 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said:

No.  I know the show.  Diego Cruz was 100% NOT Westen aligned.  No way anyone creates a game that has him as Westen Aligned 

Great, since my role pm said he was westen, I treated that as factual within the game.  Not projecting something that people thought should be based on something they wanted it to be