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Ending the OL vs. WR debate for Dummies

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Someone decided it's OK to delete my posts without holding themselves accountable, which has become a troubling trend. When I considered the overall diminishing content, the inflow of uninformed opinions/statements, how these arguments were starting (as me calling someone out for having an uninformed opinion) to how they were  were ending (off topic and crybaby-ish), and finally upon seeing my posts get deleted while a tyrant allowed their own non-football related posts about me remain, I thought, "you know what, it might be my time to move on."

Then I wanted to take a peek yesterday, and I was actually impressed with some of the content of the posts, until I saw one which broke every rule of logic out there. I made a harmless post and went back to doing what one does in these quarantine times, until I saw a DM in my emails from a particular individual who seems unhappy with being proven to be so foolish time and time again. I said to myself, "should I just leave, or should I make my point heard with a very intelligent football-related post, which will make this person look like a fool in the process." So I made a decision. 

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If one were to chart the past 10 years of first round picks, here is what the breakdown looks like in terms of safest/most successful position group investments to least successful by charting "successes" as players who were primary starters. Since some of the player's are out of the league right now, Jet X came up with a nifty cumulative "primary starter rate" which is the ratio of total seasons accumulated as a team's primary starter out of possible seasons. My breakdown of each is below. 

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#1 – CENTER (77.4% primary starter rate)

Picks: 7

Possible seasons: 31

Seasons as primary starter: 24 (77.4% – 1st)

Approximate value: 202 (6.52 per season – 2nd)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 3 (9.7% – 3rd)

Pro Bowl seasons: 14 (45.2% – 1st)

First-Team All-Pro players: 2 (28.6% – 2nd)

Pro Bowl players: 3 (42.9% – 3rd)

#2 – OFFENSIVE TACKLE (75.6% primary starter rate)

Picks: 38

Possible seasons: 225

Seasons as primary starter: 170 (75.6% – 2nd)

Approximate value (explanation): 1,278 (5.68 per season – 3rd)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 6 (2.7% – 11th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 14 (14.2% – 11th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 5 (13.2% – 9th)

Pro Bowl players: 12 (31.6% – 10th)

#3 – SAFETY (71.2% primary starter rate)

Picks: 22

Possible seasons: 111

Seasons as primary starter: 79 (71.2% – 3rd)

Approximate value: 540 (4.86 per season – 10th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 10 (9.0% – 4th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 24 (21.6% – 4th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 6 (27.3% – 3rd)

Pro Bowl players: 9 (40.9% – 4th)

#4 – EDGE (70.2% primary starter rate)

Picks: 10

Possible seasons: 47

Seasons as primary starter: 33 (70.2% – 4th)

Approximate value: 335 (7.13 per season – 1st)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 8 (17.0% – 1st)

Pro Bowl seasons: 18 (38.3% – 2nd)

First-Team All-Pro players: 4 (40.0% – 1st)

Pro Bowl players: 6 (60.0% – 1st)

#5 – OFFENSIVE GUARD (69.3% primary starter rate)

Picks: 15

Possible seasons: 88

Seasons as primary starter: 61 (69.3% – 4th)

Approximate value: 462 (5.25 per season – 7th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 9 (10.2% – 2nd)

Pro Bowl seasons: 24 (27.3% – 3rd)

First-Team All-Pro players: 4 (26.7% – 4th)

Pro Bowl players: 6 (40.0% – 5th)

#6 – 1-3T DEFENSIVE TACKLE (66.7% primary starter rate)

Picks: 34

Possible seasons: 192

Seasons as primary starter: 128 (66.7% – 6th)

Approximate value: 1,039 (5.41 per season – 5th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 11 (5.7% – 5th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 29 (15.1% – 9th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 5 (14.7% – 8th)

Pro Bowl players: 9 (26.5% – 12th)

#7 – LINEBACKER (60.0% primary starter rate)

Picks: 24

Possible seasons: 115

Seasons as primary starter: 69 (60.0% – 7th)

Approximate value: 611 (5.31 per season – 6th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 5 (4.3% – 9th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 21 (18.3% – 7th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 1 (4.2% – 12th)

Pro Bowl players: 7 (29.2% – 11th)

#8 – CORNERBACK (58.4% primary starter rate)

Picks: 38

Possible seasons: 221

Seasons as primary starter: 129 (58.4% – 8th)

Approximate value: 970 (4.39 per season – 12th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 12 (5.4% – 7th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 35 (15.8% – 8th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 8 (21.1% – 6th)

Pro Bowl players: 15 (39.5% – 7th)

#9 – TIGHT END (58.3% primary starter rate)

Picks: 9

Possible seasons: 36

Seasons as primary starter: 21 (58.3% – 9th)

Approximate value: 114 (3.17 per season – 13th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 0 (0.0% – 13th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 4 (11.1% – 13th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 0 (0.0% – 13th)

Pro Bowl players: 3 (33.3% – 9th)

#10 – 5T DEFENSIVE END (56.3% primary starter rate)

Picks: 42

Possible seasons: 252

Seasons as primary starter: 142 (56.3% – 10th)

Approximate value: 1,267 (5.03 per season – 9th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 13 (5.2% – 8th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 38 (15.1% – 10th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 7 (16.7% – 7th)

Pro Bowl players: 16 (38.1% – 8th)

#11 – RUNNING BACK (53.3% primary starter rate)

Picks: 16

Possible seasons: 90

Seasons as primary starter: 48 (53.3% – 11th)

Approximate value: 457 (5.08 per season – 8th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 5 (5.6% – 6th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 17 (18.9% – 5th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 4 (25.0% – 5th)

Pro Bowl players: 9 (56.3% – 2nd)

#12 – WIDE RECEIVER (49.7% primary starter rate)

Picks: 34

Possible seasons: 191

Seasons as primary starter: 95 (49.7% – 12th)

Approximate value: 902 (4.72 per season – 11th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 9 (3.1% – 10th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 35 (18.3% – 6th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 3 (8.8% – 11th)

Pro Bowl players: 8 (23.5% – 13th

#13 – Quarterback (49.0% primary starter rate)

Picks: 30

Possible seasons: 157

Seasons as primary starter: 77 (49.0% – 13th)

Approximate value: 883 (5.62 per season – 4th)

First-Team All-Pro seasons: 3 (1.9% – 12th)

Pro Bowl seasons: 20 (12.7% – 12th)

First-Team All-Pro players: 3 (10.0% – 10th)

Pro Bowl players: 12 (40.0% – 5th)  

 

Enjoy.

Edited by jetskid007

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We aren't going to attack members and call them "dummies" and "fools" on here.  Your attitude needs to change.  Stick to football and keep the insults, condescending attitude and trolling off of the forum.

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