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2 hours ago, jebrick said:

Brook's cover bothered me for the start.  He is another Markus Allen.  Not sure why they like those types of players.

I think Brooks is kind of similar to Hilton. I think maybe he’s a cross between Allen and Hilton. I think he’s going to be able to cover a little more than Allen. But your point is still rock solid, is Gerald Holliman the last cover type Safety we drafted? I think we literally can’t scout secondary players. I hope Layne and Edmunds prove that wrong. 

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@kurgan Thanks for those write ups. I agree with everything you wrote.

I especially agree with your take on Brooks. He’s kind of a guy w/o a position but he is a solid run defender for a guy his size and will be a heck of special teams player. I wish they had kept Mark Barron TBH, I think his loss will hurt them, but I think they let him go hoping that Bush can take the next step in pass coverage in year two, TBD I guess.

I really hope they can develop Brooks into a Barron type dime LB, but I don’t see him being great in that role as a rookie especially bc of COVID-19 and how that is going to stall young player development and cut down on practice time and offseason camps/OTAs and probably preseason too. All that’s TBD, but it doesn’t help with a player like Brooks who really needs to improve in one area of the game if he wants to see any time on D this year.

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20 hours ago, turtle28 said:

@kurgan Thanks for those write ups. I agree with everything you wrote.

I especially agree with your take on Brooks. He’s kind of a guy w/o a position but he is a solid run defender for a guy his size and will be a heck of special teams player. I wish they had kept Mark Barron TBH, I think his loss will hurt them, but I think they let him go hoping that Bush can take the next step in pass coverage in year two, TBD I guess.

I really hope they can develop Brooks into a Barron type dime LB, but I don’t see him being great in that role as a rookie especially bc of COVID-19 and how that is going to stall young player development and cut down on practice time and offseason camps/OTAs and probably preseason too. All that’s TBD, but it doesn’t help with a player like Brooks who really needs to improve in one area of the game if he wants to see any time on D this year.

I agree.. to expect him to be more than a ST at this point is foolish, especially in 2020.  I really think that he, UG3 and Marcus Allen will be competing for Barron snaps in 2021, but that job is UG3's right now.  It is scary, but unless a vet is signed, he is carrying the weight.

I am just not sure how much Brooks can improve on the area he is lacking in... athleticism.  He is maxed out and is what he is at this point.  He is not going to get faster, can't really add bulk to his frame, and I am sure that COD and agility has been worked on in HS and college.  He might be what he is, and I am not sure what that is.  Best case, for me, is that his instincts and coverage reps get better and he can be a nickel backer,  but IDK.

On 5/11/2020 at 1:29 PM, MOSteelers56 said:

I think Brooks is kind of similar to Hilton. I think maybe he’s a cross between Allen and Hilton. I think he’s going to be able to cover a little more than Allen. But your point is still rock solid, is Gerald Holliman the last cover type Safety we drafted? I think we literally can’t scout secondary players. I hope Layne and Edmunds prove that wrong. 

I don't think he can cover as well as Hilton.  Sure, he can line up over a slot WR, but he can't really cover him for more than 5-7 yards.  I think he will cover better than Allen, but that is not a high bar to clear.

Yeck..... Holliman..... I guess so.  UDFA was Marcus Golden... yea, not real keen on the DB scouting department.

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2 hours ago, kurgan said:

I don't think he can cover as well as Hilton.  Sure, he can line up over a slot WR, but he can't really cover him for more than 5-7 yards.  I think he will cover better than Allen, but that is not a high bar to clear.

I don’t think Hilton is much better in coverage. I’m not sure I’d trust him in coverage more than 7 yards down the field.

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Could I put in another request? I’d really like to see an in depth look at Terrell Edmunds. Maybe things he’s improved on, if any, things he has regressed on, stayed consistent, things to work on. Your take on  his future. Just spitballing.

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On 5/11/2020 at 1:29 PM, MOSteelers56 said:

I think Brooks is kind of similar to Hilton. I think maybe he’s a cross between Allen and Hilton. I think he’s going to be able to cover a little more than Allen. But your point is still rock solid, is Gerald Holliman the last cover type Safety we drafted? I think we literally can’t scout secondary players. I hope Layne and Edmunds prove that wrong. 

Not sure if it’s that they can’t scout secondary players well or that they aren’t investing high draft picks on FS’s. I’d say it’s more they aren’t investing on a FS prospect high in the draft. What’s the last FS prospect the Steelers spent a 1st day or 2nd day pick on?

I guess Sean Davis and he was starting to develop but then last year he got hurt. Then, they traded a 1st for Fitzpatrick which is equal to their 2020 first round pick. That seems like good scouting in that decision to me as Fitzpatrick has been a straight up steal of a FS acquisition for the Steelers.

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1 hour ago, MOSteelers56 said:

Could I put in another request? I’d really like to see an in depth look at Terrell Edmunds. Maybe things he’s improved on, if any, things he has regressed on, stayed consistent, things to work on. Your take on  his future. Just spitballing.

You got it... I'll put it in the hopper.

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No problem, @MOSteelers56...

I am doing end of the year wrapup at school right now, and we have graduation and stuff.  I will get back on the horse here in the next few days.  I already have about 1/2 of the UDFA class done, and have a good idea about the floors and ceilings piece I wanna do.  I love the one the Depot does, but I wanted to do my own.

Here is what I have, and if anyone else wants to add something or ask smaller questions, I have no issue with that.

  1. Offensive Line Breakdown aka Where does Feiler play? 
  2. Replacing Mark Barron
  3. Breaking down the rookies pt.1--Fits and roles--DONE
  4. Breaking down the rookies pt. 2--Ceilings and Floors
  5. Breaking down the rookies pt.3--UDFA's camp bodies or projects?--1/2 DONE
  6. The Enigma of Terrell Edmunds
  7. "Can I Cover;" the Mike Hilton Story
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