757-NINER Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I'm sure this may have been done before but I was curious as to who is on everyone's all time, All-Niner team. I never really gave it much thought until a couple of days ago when a co-worker who is a Steelers fan boasted that his all-time Steelers team would be the greatest team ever (which I vehemently disagreed with). Now I wasn't alive to see guys like Joe Perry, Y.A. Tittle and Bob Sinclair play though I do know their history with the team and in the league. But there's no right or wrong with this....just your own personal take on who makes the cut as your All-Time Niner at each position. Now my only criteria is that they should have played at least 5 seasons with the Niners. And you get one alternate player for both offense and defense...any position you choose. For defense, I went with a 3-4 because I'm a 3-4 guy and we won the majority of our SBs with that defense but if you want to go with a 4-3, so be it. Now with all that being said... QB - Joe Montana FB - Tom Rathman HB - Frank Gore TE - Brent Jones WR1 - Jerry Rice WR2 - Terrell Owens RT - Steve Wallace RG - Jesse Sapolu C - Randy Cross LG - Guy McIntyre LT - Joe Staley Alternate - John Taylor NT - Michael Carter LDE - Bryant Young RDE - Justin Smith LOLB - Dave Wilcox ILB - Navarro Bowman ILB - Patrick Willis ROLB - Charles Haley SS - Tim McDonald FS - Ronnie Lott CB - Jimmy Johnson CB - Eric Wright Alternate - Merton Hanks K - Mike Cofer P - Andy Lee Some notes.... Really debated between Wilcox and Julian Peterson but in the end I had to give the nudge to the HOFer. Bowman beat out Ken Norton, Jr. ever so slightly also. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RPjwkYPDECTZendgj7tEI4BWOe3TTurSPJfCjHZaGLU/edit Is from when I was bored at work a year or so ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 hours ago, JIllg said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RPjwkYPDECTZendgj7tEI4BWOe3TTurSPJfCjHZaGLU/edit Is from when I was bored at work a year or so ago. Nice....you did a two-deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftn49 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 QB - Steve Young FB - Tom Rathman HB - Frank Gore TE - Brent Jones WR1 - Jerry Rice WR2 - Terrell Owens RT - Steve Wallace RG - Jesse Sapolu C - Randy Cross LG - Guy McIntyre LT - Joe Staley Alternate - Garrison Hearst NT - Michael Carter LDE - Bryant Young RDE - Justin Smith LOLB - Dave Wilcox ILB - Ken Norton, Jr ILB - Patrick Willis ROLB - Charles Haley SS - Tim McDonald FS - Merton Hanks CB - Ronnie Lott CB - Eric Wright Alternate - Dana Stubblefield K - Mike Cofer- There really arent that many options with the 5 years thing for this position P - Andy Lee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, 757-NINER said: Nice....you did a two-deep. Thank you, Pro Football Reference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 26 minutes ago, Ftn49 said: K - Mike Cofer- There really arent that many options with the 5 years thing for this position Yeah, too bad Jose "ole reliable" Cortez didn't meet the criteria LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Ftn49 said: QB - Steve Young FB - Tom Rathman HB - Frank Gore TE - Brent Jones WR1 - Jerry Rice WR2 - Terrell Owens RT - Steve Wallace RG - Jesse Sapolu C - Randy Cross LG - Guy McIntyre LT - Joe Staley Alternate - Garrison Hearst NT - Michael Carter LDE - Bryant Young RDE - Justin Smith LOLB - Dave Wilcox ILB - Ken Norton, Jr ILB - Patrick Willis ROLB - Charles Haley SS - Tim McDonald FS - Merton Hanks CB - Ronnie Lott CB - Eric Wright Alternate - Dana Stubblefield K - Mike Cofer- There really arent that many options with the 5 years thing for this position P - Andy Lee You took Young over Montana....interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ftn49 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: You took Young over Montana....interesting. Sure for several reasons... 1) My favorite niner so far, and honestly I don't think that will ever change at this point. I'm too old to get so emotionally attached to players. Steve came along when I was a kid and Joe's prime was just a touch before I really got into football. 2) If both Joe and Steve were to be drafted in next weeks draft (meaning their pro careers hadn't happened) 100% of the GMs for nfl teams would select Steve before Joe. Not to say Joe wasn't athletic, he was but Steve would be considered a franchise QB even in todays league. 3) Steve is always slighted in these lists 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Ftn49 said: Sure for several reasons... 1) My favorite niner so far, and honestly I don't think that will ever change at this point. I'm too old to get so emotionally attached to players. Steve came along when I was a kid and Joe's prime was just a touch before I really got into football. 2) If both Joe and Steve were to be drafted in next weeks draft (meaning their pro careers hadn't happened) 100% of the GMs for nfl teams would select Steve before Joe. Not to say Joe wasn't athletic, he was but Steve would be considered a franchise QB even in todays league. 3) Steve is always slighted in these lists All great points. Can't go wrong with either. Joe Cool is the one of the reasons I became a Niner fan. He's the GOAT imo. Always will be. I give Brady his props. I just think Montana is better. Young definitely had the better physical tools. And his running ability is still underrated to this day. But Joe was the better QB...not necessarily the better talent imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 I'm going Stubblefield next to Young but I get the Carter choice. One thing that is amazing is for our storied our franchise has been, not really many memorable corners. I mean Deion was obviously Deion, but that was only for one year. Sherman was great last season but again he's a guy who started elsewhere and will be playing here during his latter part of his career. You had good seasons from Davis, Rogers etc but nothing that stands out too much. Lott probably deserves to be one of the corners since what he did in his first four-five seasons at corner has been largely unmatched ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIllg Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: All great points. Can't go wrong with either. Joe Cool is the one of the reasons I became a Niner fan. He's the GOAT imo. Always will be. I give Brady his props. I just think Montana is better. Young definitely had the better physical tools. And his running ability is still underrated to this day. But Joe was the better QB...not necessarily the better talent imo. I think who was better is up for debate. Both were absurdly efficient for their time, but Montana only put up modern NFL type efficiency stats in the mid to late 80s (Jerry Rice will do that). Young was pretty much always that efficient (as a starter - in spot duty that was pre 1989, he was far more erratic). Montana regularly had one of the best defenses in the NFL. Young - not so much. I think that’s the main difference in people’s memory. Montana was given chances by defenses to correct mistakes. Young got punished. Just look at Patty Mahomes this year or even The Catch. You don’t get to win with that many turnovers unless your defense gets you the ball back a couple of times at the end of the game. I do think that Montana’s Super Bowl XXIV game was the best game I’ve ever seen. That Bronco defense was excellent all season. They wanted to play very aggressively, breaking down early on underneath routes to disrupt the offense. And Montana went to all of those deep posts that are alerts in the playbook and scissors concepts and hit like 5 deep posts in perfect timing and in perfect stride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, J-ALL-DAY said: I'm going Stubblefield next to Young but I get the Carter choice. One thing that is amazing is for our storied our franchise has been, not really many memorable corners. I mean Deion was obviously Deion, but that was only for one year. Sherman was great last season but again he's a guy who started elsewhere and will be playing here during his latter part of his career. You had good seasons from Davis, Rogers etc but nothing that stands out too much. Lott probably deserves to be one of the corners since what he did in his first four-five seasons at corner has been largely unmatched ever since. Well Jimmy Johnson is a guy not too many Niner fans know about but he was a elite athlete for his time and a HOFer. But yea....we never really hit on that position I guess. Eric Wright is one of my favorite Niners of all time. Maybe not a HOFer but I thought he had a very good career and was overlooked because he never played on a truly elite defense. And Carter was a underatted defender for his day. Made several All-Pro teams and was the anchor to some of our best defenses. I get the Stubbfield love but Carter was a wall as far as NTs go. Edited April 16, 2020 by 757-NINER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, 757-NINER said: Well Jimmy Johnson is a guy not too many Niner fans know about but he was a elite athlete for his time and a HOFer. But yea....we never really hit on that position I guess. Eric Wright is one of my favorite Niners of all time. Maybe not a HOFer but I thought he had a very good career and was overlooked because he never played on a truly elite defense. And Carter was a underatted defender for his day. Made several All-Pro teams and was the anchor to some of our best defenses. I get the Stubbfield love but Carter was a wall as far as NTs go. Carter definitely deserves his props, but Stubblefield was also insanely good and won DPOY. I understand the choice as I mentioned earlier. But look at the names you listed and tell me when those players were drafted. Have not good a great corner drafted from the 90s on. And during that period we have had SEVERAL elite defenses. Have had better luck with free agents than actually drafting corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: But look at the names you listed and tell me when those players were drafted. Have not good a great corner drafted from the 90s on. And during that period we have had SEVERAL elite defenses. Have had better luck with free agents than actually drafting corners. Very true. Don't really know why we never really found that truly elite talent@CB. But I think alot of teams with storied histories are guilty also. Just not that many truly elite, HOF CBs really. Deion, Darrell Green, Revis, Rod Woodson, Aneas Williams, Mel Blount, Champ Bailey...its not alot of them compared to other positions. Edited April 16, 2020 by 757-NINER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, 757-NINER said: Very true. Don't really know why we never really found that truly elite talent@CB. But I think alot of teams with storied histories are guilty also. Just not that many truly elite, HOF CBs really. Deion, Darrell Green, Revis, Rod Woodson, Aneas Williams, Mel Blount, Champ Bailey...its not alot of them compared to other positions. But plenty of corners who were in the top 5-10 range for a good period and we haven't come close to drafting one of that caliber. Only corners from 90s on to make the Pro Bowl for this team have been all free agents minus Eric Davis in 95 I believe. Heck, we hardly even draft corners early in the draft now that I think about it. Really off the top of my head I couldn't tell you the last first round corner we drafted. Mike Rumph? Seriously can't recall another first round corner we have drafted and this was like what, 16 or 17 years ago? Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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