Elky Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 He regressed significantly in his final season at Utah State and his 17 interceptions, a chunk against weak competition mind you, is extremely concerning. Comes off as the next Josh Freeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Elky said: He regressed significantly in his final season at Utah State and his 17 interceptions, a chunk against weak competition mind you, is extremely concerning. Comes off as the next Josh Freeman. In fairness, Freeman was a first rounder... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Forge said: In fairness, Freeman was a first rounder... Which he shouldn't have been, even back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Toolsy guys will always find themselves getting drafted higher than they maybe ought to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Elky said: He regressed significantly in his final season at Utah State and his 17 interceptions, a chunk against weak competition mind you, is extremely concerning. Comes off as the next Josh Freeman. Because his 2018 tape is phenomenal. As has been said numerous times in some of these threads, Utah State in 2019 was brutal talent wise. Love regressed but the talent around him played a massive part (both on field and on the sidelines - Gary Andersen sucks). Losing Matt Wells, Dax Raymond, Darwin Thompson and his top 3 WRs was too much to overcome. The talent never left Love, the situation around him just got drastically worse. Sure, he had a few WTF moments but he tried to force a ton due to the lack of talent around him. Love's skillset is the least of my worries. The situation he goes to matters more to me than anything. Edited April 18, 2020 by beekay414 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Because his 2018 tape is phenomenal. As has been said numerous times in some of these threads, Utah State in 2019 was brutal talent wise. Love regressed but the talent around him played a massive part (both on field and on the sidelines - Gary Andersen sucks). Losing Matt Wells, Dax Raymond, Darwin Thompson and his top 3 WRs was too much to overcome. The talent never left Love, the situation around him just got drastically worse. Sure, he had a few WTF moments but he tried to force a ton due to the lack of talent around him. Love's skillset is the least of my worries. The situation he goes to matters more to me than anything. Ok? This is 2020. "Lack of talent" isn't a strong excuse for throwing six interceptions against elite programs like Wake Forest and BYU. Edited April 18, 2020 by Elky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Elky said: Ok? That was 2018. This is 2020. What? No **** it's 2020. We're talking the last two seasons he played. Don't be thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Elky said: Which he shouldn't have been, even back then. Maybe, but he was, so you're kind of missing the point of what I was saying. Why was Josh Allen not only a first round pick but a top ten one? Guys with physical tools who have flashed will always get some big love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Elky said: Ok? That was 2018. This is 2020. Is this a legitimate retort? What? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Forge said: Guys with physical tools who have flashed will always get some big love And Allen suffered the same fate in college as Love did. He regressed but it wasn't his doing. You can only sustain so much talent at schools like Wyoming and Utah State. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, beekay414 said: And Allen suffered the same fate in college as Love did. He regressed but it wasn't his doing. You can only sustain so much talent at schools like Wyoming and Utah State. Yup. And Allen looked a hell of a lot worse than love did his last year. And I say that as a guy who was a big Allen supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Forge said: Is this a legitimate retort? What? Who cares how he played in 2018? That was then this is now. He played worse. You know what happens when you draft someone because they looked alright an eternity ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) I understand if you’re not a fan of Love the prospect. But to not understand why some may be or why weighing his 2018 and 2019 with context is important idk what can be said to change your mind. Edited April 18, 2020 by CaliforniaKid7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Forge said: Yup. And Allen looked a hell of a lot worse than love did his last year. And I say that as a guy who was a big Allen supporter And Josh Allen is Buffalo's biggest liability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Elky said: Who cares how he played in 2018? That was then this is now. He played worse. You know what happens when you draft someone because they looked alright an eternity ago? lol Guess Buffalo shouldn't have drafted Josh Allen then. Such simplistic bull**** lol. 2 seasons worth of tape isn't an eternity. Quite speaking in hyperbole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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