crfalker05 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, wgbeethree said: I remember this being the narrative at the time but I think it was incorrect. When I have time I'm going to look up to see if my memory serves me correct. Off the top of my head I remember us losing 3-5 games that year because the defense let the opponent score at the end of games. You’re right. Atlanta, @ Min (missed FG I think), OT @ TEN (never got the ball I think), Houston, Jacksonville, Carolina and there was something screwy at the game in Chicago. 6-10 could’ve easily been 10-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I'm really starting to hate the Love pick since it spawned these mental gymnastics concerning trading our MVP when he is playing as good as ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgbeethree Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 7 hours ago, crfalker05 said: You’re right. Atlanta, @ Min (missed FG I think), OT @ TEN (never got the ball I think), Houston, Jacksonville, Carolina and there was something screwy at the game in Chicago. 6-10 could’ve easily been 10-6 I got us losing on 3 walk off FGs vs. Houston as time expired and vs. Tennessee and Chicago in OT without ever getting the ball. Vs. Carolina and Jacksonville we gave up the lead after the two minute warning. Vs. Minnesota we gave up the lead with 2:22 left. We scored in the 4th quarter to tie, extend, or take the lead in all six of those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: I'm really starting to hate the Love pick since it spawned these mental gymnastics concerning trading our MVP when he is playing as good as ever. I don't know how one couldn't be ridiculously excited at the prospect of moving Rodgers for a historical return thus indicating the staff feels confident in Love's ability. If Love is even Jared Goff level, it makes so much sense to do this. Imagine a MLF-led team with a top 2 defense...It's the Rams. Plus, if Love is better than Goff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't know how one couldn't be ridiculously excited at the prospect of moving Rodgers for a historical return thus indicating the staff feels confident in Love's ability. If Love is even Jared Goff level, it makes so much sense to do this. Imagine a MLF-led team with a top 2 defense...It's the Rams. Plus, if Love is better than Goff... No offense meant here. But to me, this is mental gymnastics. "Historical return". "Top 2 defense". "If Love is better than Goff." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo972 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 31 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't know how one couldn't be ridiculously excited at the prospect of moving Rodgers for a historical return thus indicating the staff feels confident in Love's ability. If Love is even Jared Goff level, it makes so much sense to do this. Imagine a MLF-led team with a top 2 defense...It's the Rams. Plus, if Love is better than Goff... Yeah but how many teams have an MVP QB that is also the host of Jeopardy?? Why have your QB focus solely on winning one more SB to solidify his legacy when he can host a game show nobody watches?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: I'm really starting to hate the Love pick since it spawned these mental gymnastics concerning trading our MVP when he is playing as good as ever. I like the player, but didn't think it was the right time to select the heir. The Packers screwed it up by two years. 2022 was the time to get the heir to Rodgers. There is a good chance Love's rookie deal will be mostly completed before he ever sees the field, and that is one of the biggest benefits to having a QB on a rookie deal. Sure, Rodgers was a mere mortal for a few seasons before his MVP performance last year, but he still wasn't a player anyone would want to replace. They would be nutso to get rid of Rodgers at this point. Edited April 7, 2021 by {Family Ghost} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, vegas492 said: No offense meant here. But to me, this is mental gymnastics. "Historical return". "Top 2 defense". "If Love is better than Goff." that's not at all what mental gymnastics means 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 57 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't know how one couldn't be ridiculously excited at the prospect of moving Rodgers for a historical return thus indicating the staff feels confident in Love's ability. If Love is even Jared Goff level, it makes so much sense to do this. Imagine a MLF-led team with a top 2 defense...It's the Rams. Plus, if Love is better than Goff... I'm ridiculously excited to transition from Rodgers to another QB with the tools to be elite. I am totally fine with the Love pick. Rodgers isn't going to fetch a historical return at 39. It'll be a first round pick or 2. Also the Rams just had the #1 defense with one of the mentors to LaFleur and they finished with 1 playoff win. Love needs to be much better than Goff or that's a massive bust for LaFleur and Gute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I'm ridiculously excited to transition from Rodgers to another QB with the tools to be elite. I am totally fine with the Love pick. Rodgers isn't going to fetch a historical return at 39. It'll be a first round pick or 2. Also the Rams just had the #1 defense with one of the mentors to LaFleur and they finished with 1 playoff win. Love needs to be much better than Goff or that's a massive bust for LaFleur and Gute. Goff has played in as many Super Bowls as Aaron Rodgers. If Love is that good his first year, we could be a Super Bowl team w/ the return we get from Rodgers added to the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Jared Goff had a year with an insane core around him and mystery surrounding the scheme. Once he got figured out and the league became familiar with McVay and his scheme, he was traded as a salary dump. I'd like Jordan Love to be more than 1 fluke year. I agree with your overall premise that his reduction in salary and potential return from a Rodgers trade could set us up nicely. The bar just needs to be set higher than Jared Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, incognito_man said: that's not at all what mental gymnastics means You'd rather I use assumptions? Because that is a lot of assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, vegas492 said: You'd rather I use assumptions? Because that is a lot of assumptions. there are literally zero assumptions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Jared Goff had a year with an insane core around him and mystery surrounding the scheme. Once he got figured out and the league became familiar with McVay and his scheme, he was traded as a salary dump. I'd like Jordan Love to be more than 1 fluke year. I agree with your overall premise that his reduction in salary and potential return from a Rodgers trade could set us up nicely. The bar just needs to be set higher than Jared Goff. Goff is the minimum bar used to illustrate the level of play from the QB position you can get away with if you're able to stack the team around him. I clearly said that if Love is only as good as Goff, we could still be a SB team. Obviously the ideal is that Love will be better than Goff. But even if he's not, it can still make sense to move on from Rodgers in the next year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: there are literally zero assumptions... HA! Historic return. Love being better than Goff. #2 ranked defense. Lots of assumptions in my book. Think whatever you want, I'm going to sit here and enjoy #12 without worrying about the "what ifs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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