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With the 32nd Pick the Chiefs Select: Clyde Edwards-Helaire RB LSU

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5 hours ago, valkrei said:

So apparently Ried asked PM2 who he wanted.. and he wanted CEH, Hell Bunny.  This pick also makes PM2 happy so you can't go wrong there.

Dang, talk about ingratiating yourself to PM2. But patrick has earned some input on players he's surrounded with.

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1 hour ago, mayanfootball said:

Dang, talk about ingratiating yourself to PM2. But patrick has earned some input on players he's surrounded with.

MVPat gets what MVPat wants 

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7 hours ago, Chiefer said:

Yup, they’re also slippery and hard to see behind 6’5 average linemen. He can squeeze through holes that most RBs won’t be able too.

I don’t see MJD or Ray Rice, more Priest Holmes or a baby Barry. 

Ray Rice was all around bigger, but the style seems to be similar. Except for the top end speed, Priest may also be a good comp. I cannot wait to see what he does with a checkdown in the flat. Holmes got half his receiving yards on those. 

J

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10 minutes ago, onejayhawk said:

Ray Rice was all around bigger, but the style seems to be similar. Except for the top end speed, Priest may also be a good comp. I cannot wait to see what he does with a checkdown in the flat. Holmes got half his receiving yards on those. 

J

Pat don’t check down man cmon

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7 minutes ago, Chiefer said:

Pat don’t check down man cmon

What team have you been watching? 

Kelce is rarely the first option and Mahomes has thrown TDs to Sausage and Blake Bell. It's also an area that PM says he's working to get better.

J

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10 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said:

CEH gets #25

 

LDT still has the longest name, but that's pretty knarly.

J

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29 minutes ago, onejayhawk said:

What team have you been watching? 

Kelce is rarely the first option and Mahomes has thrown TDs to Sausage and Blake Bell. It's also an area that PM says he's working to get better.

J

The Chiefs since we drafted Mahomes. He’s holding onto that ball for the big play 99 times out of 100.

even those Sausage TDs are wheel routes that he’s taking down the field. 

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22 hours ago, onejayhawk said:

If PM can find Williams, he will find CEH.

J

Just because the running back gets a catch doesn’t mean it’s a check down 

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50 minutes ago, Chiefer said:

Just because the running back gets a catch doesn’t mean it’s a check down 

Doesn't mean it isn't. Mahomes does the before-snap reading like few in the NFL, but he still has a route progression. 

J

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Honestly you all need to stop reading the NFL.com scouting report.  It is not accurate at all.  

CEH's best comp in terms of running style is a blend of Ray Rice and Barry Sanders.  Who were both 5'8 btw, 3/4 of an inch does not make that big of difference.  Literally hold up 3/4 of an inch between your fingers, that is what you all are determining is his weakness compared to the previous RBs mentioned.  Also he has big hands for his size which is a plus as a receiver.  

In my opinion he is not at all like MJD or Brian Westbrook in terms of running style.  

Also this idea that he is not fast enough to stretch outside runs is absurd.  He has elite quickness and good speed, guy runs the fastest 4.6 40 I have ever seen.  He broke long runs against SEC defenses that are faster than the guys catching up to Barry Sanders in some of his highlights.  Also, as said before...He ran an electronic 4.47 at the high school Sparq test which are on par with the combine.  

Really just look at the film, CEH is the total package outside of being 5'7.  Although realistically, smaller RBs built like him are actually more durable.  All the most durable RBs in NFL history were 5'9 and under.  

1. Emmit Smith - 5'9

2. Walter Payton - 5'9

3. Frank Gore - 5'9

4. Barry Sanders - 5'8

5. Adrian Peterson - 6'1

6. Curtis Martin - 5'9

7. LaDainian Tomlinson - 5'10

Do you see the trend here yet? 

Lastly something real to think about is the stigma of not being the "prototype 6'1 225 lb RB" is that at 5'7 he will legit cost less when it comes time to negotiate his contract.  Look at the figures historically, it's real.  

If I were to grade CEH as a prospect: 

Size: 7 - Again 5'9 is the true prototype for great RBs, not 6'1. 

Speed: 8

Quickness: 9

Agility: 9

Instincts: 9

Receiving: 9

Blocking: 6.5 

Carrying: 10

Spin, Juke, Cut Moves: 10

Power: 7 

Durability: 9 

This is a great pick by Veach, Reid, and Mahomes.  

 

 

Edited by warsawian

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Let's wait to enshrine him until he's amassed a few 2000 TYS seasons.  Some of those are a bit high.

His speed is slow by NFL standards, maybe a 4. He runs good routes, but he's nearly as good catching the ball. Maybe 6.5 on receiving. Durability TBD, say 7. Very good marks for quickness, agility, elusiveness, but he isn't Sproles or Sanders, so back all those off a point. The things that sets him apart is that he is a very elusive back, but he also displays power. 

J

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On 4/24/2020 at 5:42 PM, onejayhawk said:

What team have you been watching? 

Kelce is rarely the first option and Mahomes has thrown TDs to Sausage and Blake Bell. It's also an area that PM says he's working to get better.

J

If your open and PM2 sees you, your likely getting the ball.

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14 minutes ago, onejayhawk said:

Let's wait to enshrine him until he's amassed a few 2000 TYS seasons.  Some of those are a bit high.

His speed is slow by NFL standards, maybe a 4. He runs good routes, but he's nearly as good catching the ball. Maybe 6.5 on receiving. Durability TBD, say 7. Very good marks for quickness, agility, elusiveness, but he isn't Sproles or Sanders, so back all those off a point. The things that sets him apart is that he is a very elusive back, but he also displays power. 

J

Jay is right, All the skills and talent is there , yes! However, just because you got all that doesn't mean it happens in the NFL.

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