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1 minute ago, Dessie said:

Also how bad do the trades for Zay Jones and Trevor Davis look now? 

Pretty bad. Davis was a total flop other than 1 good run. Jones is still TBD and has potential but wouldn't be surprised if he's cut. I just hope with the Ruggs and potential 3rd rounder, we'll stop wasting picks on quick WR fixes. 

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6 minutes ago, Dessie said:

iIf we had taken Lamb or Jeudy would we still be after a WR ? I see what Ruggs brings but interested to see what role he plays in our offense if we do look for a WR i today. 

Also how bad do the trades for Zay Jones and Trevor Davis look now? 

Tyrell is a cut candidate next year. He is a big part of this offense, but if we have Ruggs and another rookie stepping up, it makes sense.

Even with Lamb, or Jeudy, it's not a deep room. No sure things.

Regarding the trades, late picks for vets with ability? I'll do those trades all day long  

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40 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Interesting idea to keep Carr, sign Mariota to a big contract, retain Peterman for a good chunk then still draft a dude. I like Hurts and would be down to pick him in the 3rd but would we really keep 4 QBs?

Even keeping three QB's seems a little meh with one of the highest paid starters and the highest paid backup in the league already on the roster.  

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1 minute ago, massraider said:

Tyrell is a cut candidate next year. He is a big part of this offense, but if we have Ruggs and another rookie stepping up, it makes sense.

Even with Lamb, or Jeudy, it's not a deep room. No sure things.

Regarding the trades, late picks for vets with ability? I'll do those trades all day long  

You are calling Davis a good trade ?? Seriously?

 

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37 minutes ago, Geezy said:

id hate taking a QB today, I like Hurts, and think he can develop into a Dak Prescott type QB, but I think we should finish filling out the roster. Carr, Mariota and Peterman is a nice trio. 

One thing about Hurts coming here would be that he'd be coming into a very similar situation that Prescott went into when he got drafted by Dallas. He'd have a top 10 offensive line, top 10 running back, top 5 TE, and a solid group of WR's to work with.

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Our WR room is looking pretty good going into the offseason program. A legit NFL player is going to get cut not some scrub. 

Ruggs, Williams, Renefrow, Jones, Agholor, Gafford, and Doss. Plus another pick in this draft I am sure. We probably only carry 6 maybe 7.

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1 minute ago, Dessie said:

You are calling Davis a good trade ?? Seriously?

 

No, I'm saying a late pick for a guy you like is a deal I'm cool with.  

Bad trade, it doesn't move the needle. Whatever guy we wanted with that late pick, we get as a UDFA. Davis was free.

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1 minute ago, OG_C2X said:

Our WR room is looking pretty good going into the offseason program. A legit NFL player is going to get cut not some scrub. 

Ruggs, Williams, Renefrow, Jones, Agholor, Gafford, and Doss. Plus another pick in this draft I am sure. We probably only carry 6 maybe 7.

Geez, I keep forgetting Agholor somehow. He's going to be a nice depth piece behind Renfrow. We're set on slot this year. Ruggs and Williams on the outside with another rookie and Jones/Doss looks ok.

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7 minutes ago, massraider said:

Tyrell is a cut candidate next year. He is a big part of this offense, but if we have Ruggs and another rookie stepping up, it makes sense.

Even with Lamb, or Jeudy, it's not a deep room. No sure things.

Regarding the trades, late picks for vets with ability? I'll do those trades all day long  

Unless Williams puts up like 1,000+ yards this season he's almost guaranteed to be gone after this season. I think our WR right now is actually pretty solid tbh. There's not a dominant #1 but Williams is one of the best deep threats in the league, Renfrow came on really strong as a slot option late in the year, and Ruggs should be able to make some big plays all around the field. After that we have Zay Jones who's only 25, a former 2nd round pick, and a guy that has produced 650 yards and 7 TD in a season. Plus Agholor who is only 26, a former first round pick,  that put up 1,400 yards and 12 TD in 2017/2018. 

The need for a dominant #1 is kind of eliminated when you have Waller who will be the first option in the passing game. I mean look no further than the two teams in the Super Bowl to see what I'm talking about. 

Kansas City: Kelce (97 receptions/1,229 yards), Hill (58 receptions/860 yards), Watkins (52 receptions/673 yards), Harman (26 receptions/538 yards)

San Francisco: Kittle (85 receptions/1,053 yards), Samuel (57 receptions/802 yards), Sanders (36 receptions/502 yards), Bourne (30 receptions/358 yards)

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7 minutes ago, OG_C2X said:

Our WR room is looking pretty good going into the offseason program. A legit NFL player is going to get cut not some scrub. 

Ruggs, Williams, Renefrow, Jones, Agholor, Gafford, and Doss. Plus another pick in this draft I am sure. We probably only carry 6 maybe 7.

Williams, Renfrow, Jones, and Agholor have all put up 600+ yards in a season. 

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12 minutes ago, massraider said:

No, I'm saying a late pick for a guy you like is a deal I'm cool with.  

Bad trade, it doesn't move the needle. Whatever guy we wanted with that late pick, we get as a UDFA. Davis was free.

That 6th could be used to move up though or to package in a deal, terrible trade. 

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