soulman Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 In another draft with more top TE prospects Kmet may have fallen a bit farther but probably not that much farther. Shaheen isn't working out so we needed a "Y" TE to replace him. Kmet is it. Not much more to it than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 hours ago, WindyCity said: I hate to compliment Ryan Pace But taking Johnson and Kmet would have looked better "value" wise, Johnson was a much higher ranked prospect by pretty much everyone. But when Kmet was picked there was still 3 CBs that were highly ranked in Johnson, Diggs, and Fulton. There was a better chance that one of those CBs was going to make it 7 picks, all of them did, than Kmet was going to as the only TE with a high grade. In addition to scarcity it was also reflective of what we want to do on offense philosophically. Namely, emphasize the TE position over WR. Ertz and Goedert combined for 212 targets last year, and while that’s probably somewhat inflated by all of their WR injuries and lack of an alpha at WR like we have in Robinson they had 200 combined targets in 2018 too. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect 8-10 targets a game to Graham and Kmet collectively in 2020. That’s how this offense works best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: In addition to scarcity it was also reflective of what we want to do on offense philosophically. Namely, emphasize the TE position over WR. Ertz and Goedert combined for 212 targets last year, and while that’s probably somewhat inflated by all of their WR injuries and lack of an alpha at WR like we have in Robinson they had 200 combined targets in 2018 too. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect 8-10 targets a game to Graham and Kmet collectively in 2020. That’s how this offense works best. With Tru or Foles this should be a pretty safe bet. Tru likely will be trying to be safe so ARob, Miller and his TEs will get a heavy workload, I still don't see him pushing the ball downfield much. Both TEs are really big guys who have shown the ability to "box out" defenders so they are going to be safety nets for him. Foles because he clearly showed a history with TEs and attacking between the numbers. If healthy I'd bet 160 targets would be pretty possible for them combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Based on last season the Bears have about 575 targets to dole out. The Chiefs and Eagles were almost identical. 2019 Robinson 153 Miller 85 Gabriel 48 Wims 39 Patterson 17 Ridley 1 Burton 25 Shaheen 13 Horsted 10 Holtz 8 Braunacker 11 Saubert 3 Cohen 104 Montgomery 35 Davis 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) TE Targets Eagles 2019: 222 2018: 200 [156 Ertz] Chiefs 2019: 155 2018: 162 [137 Kelce] *I do not think that they will target Graham as much as Kelce and Ertz and he won't play that many snaps. *I think we will see about 130 combine targets at TE Graham 80 [2018 Burton] Kmet 50 [2018 Rookie Goeddert] *Maybe 10-15 for for Harris and Horsted Edited April 28, 2020 by WindyCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I think it will look something like this Robinson 130 Miller 85 Mooney 20 Wims 20 Patterson 25 Ridley 20 Graham 75 Kmet 45 Harris 10 Horsted 5 Holtz 8 Cohen 80 Montgomery 50 RB3 7 580 targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: I think it will look something like this Robinson 130 Miller 85 Mooney 20 Wims 20 Patterson 25 Ridley 20 Graham 75 Kmet 45 Harris 10 Horsted 5 Holtz 8 Cohen 80 Montgomery 50 RB3 7 580 targets I struggle to see our WRs 3-6 getting 85 targets if our TE are getting 130. That means WR 3-6 are almost surely seeing significantly less reps, with a decent share of the WR3 reps probably going to Cohen too. I’m guessing one of Ridley or Wims is probably inactive most weeks. I’d like to see a target split like what you’ve outlined here between Montgomery and Cohen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 39 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: I struggle to see our WRs 3-6 getting 85 targets if our TE are getting 130. That means WR 3-6 are almost surely seeing significantly less reps, with a decent share of the WR3 reps probably going to Cohen too. I’m guessing one of Ridley or Wims is probably inactive most weeks. I’d like to see a target split like what you’ve outlined here between Montgomery and Cohen though. I think WR 3-6 will combine for about 85 targets. I just have no idea who those guys are going to be and how much in a rotation they will play. That is less than 3-6 got in KC and Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Patterson could function as our 1B to Montgomery, which could see him being more involved. Cohen should not be taking hand offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, chisoxguy7 said: Patterson could function as our 1B to Montgomery, which could see him being more involved. Cohen should not be taking hand offs. We need to use Cohen less across the board. 104 targets is ridiculous for what he brings to the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, WindyCity said: We need to use Cohen less across the board. 104 targets is ridiculous for what he brings to the table. He should see 20 snaps or so a game, in my opinion. Run him on reverses, run him as a decoy, run him in 2RB looks, toss him a screen or a bubble, angle route, wheel route, anything. But he should never be running the ball between the tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I would love to see them running Cohen on drag routes with Kmet or Graham running up the seam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, chisoxguy7 said: I would love to see them running Cohen on drag routes with Kmet or Graham running up the seam. I still want to see him used as NE used Dion Lewis. Curl up to the LOS and read the LB/S's leverage, then break in or out based on that. With that option route he should be able to get 3-4 receptions a game and at least one chunk play since he has a head start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxguy7 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Sugashane said: I still want to see him used as NE used Dion Lewis. Curl up to the LOS and read the LB/S's leverage, then break in or out based on that. With that option route he should be able to get 3-4 receptions a game and at least one chunk play since he has a head start. Exactly. The whole thing with Cohen is—is he shifty? Yes. However, it’s a heck of a lot more difficult to put a move or three on a guy or five to get into the open. It’s a lot easier to scheme a guy open and allow his physical mismatch to exploit that existing advantage. The Rams do a great job of doing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Sugashane said: I still want to see him used as NE used Dion Lewis. Curl up to the LOS and read the LB/S's leverage, then break in or out based on that. With that option route he should be able to get 3-4 receptions a game and at least one chunk play since he has a head start. This. And punt returner. He is a good and valuable player if used within his strengths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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